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fmedina · 08-01-2014, 03:10 AM

I have some doubts about the horns that should fit a 35 Phaeton Ford, I had read the horns information on the 35-36 EF V-8 Book, but still have some doubts:
· 35 Ford horns are the same for other Ford years, like 33 – 34? Are these horns used on other car manufacturers?
· How I can identify repros from original horns?
· Anyone know where I can buy a pair of original reconditioned horns?
Many thanks
Fredys

Terry,OH · 08-01-2014, 10:17 AM

33-34 horns are Sparton CL-4, 35 are CL-6 (on both the top covers are embossed so), both have chrome final projectors on the bottom but 33-34 have a different opening shape than the more oval 35. The horns are two tone, each has a slightly different tone due to the thickness of the metal diaphragms inside. I believe the internals for the 33-34 and the 35 horns are the same. The reproductions I have seen have a completely different operating mechanism.

rheltzel · 08-01-2014, 01:15 PM

Anyone have a source for rebuilding '35 horns? Mine aren't very loud. I've tried adjusting the points, but without much success.

Lawson Cox · 08-01-2014, 02:15 PM

Are they grounded well?

JM 35 Sedan · 08-01-2014, 02:56 PM

Could also be poor/high resistance electrical connections at horn button or at wire connector pins going into brass tubes.

russcc · 08-01-2014, 07:22 PM

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I would call Ray Helgers in RI 401 635 4849. He has the parts, NOS, NORS, or good used and the knowledge. In biz since the "70's.

rheltzel · 08-01-2014, 10:54 PM

Thanks, fellows. I think I'll check the grounds first. If that doesn't work, I'll try Ray Helgers.

JSeery · 08-02-2014, 09:31 AM

Might try some jumper wires straight to the battery, run a good ground wire direct from the horn to the battery ground and then connect a second wire directly to the hot side of the battery. You should then be able to touch the other end of the hot wire to the horn connection and test the horn (and produce sparks!). That should tell you if it is the horn or a wiring or ground issue.

rheltzel · 08-02-2014, 01:47 PM

Thanks, JSeery; I'll give that a try.

Sorry, FMedina, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

fmedina · 08-03-2014, 05:08 PM

Terry OH, Thanks for the info. Russcc thanks to share the contact, I have contacted with Ray Helgers but he hasn’t 35 horns.
Anyone know other possible source of 35 horns?
Rheltzer, no problem, the info shared on this tread could also be useful to me and other.
Fredys

08-01-2014, 03:10 AM	#1
fmedina Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canary Island, Spain Posts: 57	35 Ford Horn questions I have some doubts about the horns that should fit a 35 Phaeton Ford, I had read the horns information on the 35-36 EF V-8 Book, but still have some doubts: · 35 Ford horns are the same for other Ford years, like 33 – 34? Are these horns used on other car manufacturers? · How I can identify repros from original horns? · Anyone know where I can buy a pair of original reconditioned horns? Many thanks Fredys

08-01-2014, 10:17 AM	#2
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,743	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions 33-34 horns are Sparton CL-4, 35 are CL-6 (on both the top covers are embossed so), both have chrome final projectors on the bottom but 33-34 have a different opening shape than the more oval 35. The horns are two tone, each has a slightly different tone due to the thickness of the metal diaphragms inside. I believe the internals for the 33-34 and the 35 horns are the same. The reproductions I have seen have a completely different operating mechanism.

08-01-2014, 01:15 PM	#3
rheltzel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 368	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Anyone have a source for rebuilding '35 horns? Mine aren't very loud. I've tried adjusting the points, but without much success.

08-01-2014, 02:15 PM	#4
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Are they grounded well? __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

08-01-2014, 02:56 PM	#5
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Could also be poor/high resistance electrical connections at horn button or at wire connector pins going into brass tubes. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

08-01-2014, 07:22 PM	#6
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I would call Ray Helgers in RI 401 635 4849. He has the parts, NOS, NORS, or good used and the knowledge. In biz since the "70's.

08-01-2014, 10:54 PM	#7
rheltzel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 368	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Thanks, fellows. I think I'll check the grounds first. If that doesn't work, I'll try Ray Helgers.

08-02-2014, 09:31 AM	#8
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Might try some jumper wires straight to the battery, run a good ground wire direct from the horn to the battery ground and then connect a second wire directly to the hot side of the battery. You should then be able to touch the other end of the hot wire to the horn connection and test the horn (and produce sparks!). That should tell you if it is the horn or a wiring or ground issue.

08-02-2014, 01:47 PM	#9
rheltzel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 368	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Thanks, JSeery; I'll give that a try. Sorry, FMedina, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

08-03-2014, 05:08 PM	#10
fmedina Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canary Island, Spain Posts: 57	Re: 35 Ford Horn questions Terry OH, Thanks for the info. Russcc thanks to share the contact, I have contacted with Ray Helgers but he hasn’t 35 horns. Anyone know other possible source of 35 horns? Rheltzer, no problem, the info shared on this tread could also be useful to me and other. Fredys