Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-10-2016, 05:23 AM   #1
fmedina
Member
 
fmedina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Canary Island, Spain
Posts: 57
Default 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

I have some doubts about the 35/36 wiper motor for my 35 Phaeton. This car use the "heart type" Trico wiper motor, but my car doesn't have nothing.., so I don't have any reference.

I've read that the 35/6 Phaeton/Roadster wiper motor shaft have 1-7/8" length and Cabriolet/Conv. Sedan 2-5/8" length. But apart from this difference, There are another differences between them?. Can someone send photos of a Phaeton wiper motor with the necessary parts to attach it to the windshield frame?

Regards,
Fredys
fmedina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 08:04 AM   #2
Kurt in NJ
Senior Member
 
Kurt in NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: on the Littlefield
Posts: 6,157
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

I have both, the only difference I see is the inner/outer shaft---only have mounting hardware for conv sedan
Kurt in NJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 04-10-2016, 08:11 AM   #3
Terry,OH
Senior Member
 
Terry,OH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,750
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Kent Jaquith can help with the length of the inner and outer shafts and the length of the spacer between the motor and the W/S frame( if your car uses one). He may be able to modify your motor for proper fit if the shafts are short.

Last edited by Terry,OH; 04-10-2016 at 08:22 AM.
Terry,OH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 08:27 AM   #4
J Witt
Senior Member
 
J Witt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Acworth GA
Posts: 534
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

I was trying to respond to this but the forum kept logging out before I could get the post finished. This is a good site, but this short time out sucks.

Here are a couple of pictures of the wiper in my phaeton. It mounts through the windshield frame and the shaft is only about an inch or so long.

This car was restored in 1973, no idea if this is an original wiper or replaced the original when the work was done.

John
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20160410_090951_001 (1328 x 747).jpg (52.4 KB, 89 views)
File Type: jpg 20160410_091334 (1328 x 747).jpg (32.1 KB, 74 views)
__________________
Houston, Tranquility base here. The Eagle has landed.
J Witt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 09:46 AM   #5
Terry,OH
Senior Member
 
Terry,OH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,750
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

John: I do not believe you have the correct open car wiper and wiper arm on your car. I believe the entire motor should be chrome plated with a heart shaped cover on the rear. The wiper arm attaches in the same way as the closed car wiper arms. Your motor is very much like the closed car 34 motor with the long control rods that extend through the header panels that cover the motors.
Below is a 35 Cabriolet wiper motor and although the shaft and the mounting may be slightly different the appearance is the same as your car.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 35 Cabriolet wiper motor original (2).jpg (318.2 KB, 64 views)
Terry,OH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 10:05 AM   #6
DavidG
Senior Member
 
DavidG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: southeastern Michigan
Posts: 10,101
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Actually the mounting is very different. The-not-entirely-helpful photo below (It's all I have in this computer) is of a correct '35-'36 phaeton/roadster wiper motor and mounting hardware (less the vacuum adjustment control shown in Terry's photo above). Closest to the body of the motor is a die cast upside-down L-shaped spacer that fits over the shaft casing. At the outer end of this spacer are two raised protrusions positioned horizontally opposite one another.

In front of that is a stamped upside-down L-shaped piece with horizontal notches on each side of the hole in the center. These notches line up with the protrusions on the die cast spacer. The foot of the "L" fits over the top of the windshield frame securing the whole assembly in place once the rubber and flat washers and nut on the outside of the windshield frame are in place on the end of the shaft casing.

Unfortunately, for some reason I am unable to upload the photo at this time. I'll try later.
DavidG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 10:38 AM   #7
DavidG
Senior Member
 
DavidG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: southeastern Michigan
Posts: 10,101
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

I have tried repeatedly to attach a cropped version of this photo showing only the wiper motor on the left side, but so far to no avail. If you enlarge this photo you will be able to perceive the die cast spacer and stamped piece that fits over the top of the inside of the windshield frame that I cite in my note above. The wiper motor is upside down relative to its position mounted on the car and the spacer and stamping are oriented accordingly.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 3164.jpg (40.2 KB, 83 views)
DavidG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 10:40 AM   #8
Karl Wescott
Senior Member
 
Karl Wescott's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,287
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

[QUOTE=J Witt;1274674]I was trying to respond to this but the forum kept logging out before I could get the post finished. This is a good site, but this short time out sucks.

Just a tip... If you require more thought or typing time consider composing in a text editor or word processing application, then copying and pasting into Fordbarn.
Karl Wescott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 10:55 AM   #9
Terry,OH
Senior Member
 
Terry,OH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,750
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

The spacer David is reference to may be like the 35 Cabriolet spacer below but I am sure the length, in the photo, is not correct.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 35 cabriolet wiper spacer.jpg (55.0 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg 35 cabriolet wiper spacer 2.jpg (56.1 KB, 5 views)
Terry,OH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 11:02 AM   #10
deuce lover
Senior Member
 
deuce lover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern France
Posts: 5,305
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

There is one on listed EBAY now for $399 omo.# 301920673719.It has the 2.50" shaft.Apparently the seller has 3 of them.They appear very nice.

Last edited by deuce lover; 04-10-2016 at 11:12 AM.
deuce lover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 11:15 AM   #11
Don Rogers
Senior Member
 
Don Rogers's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis)
Posts: 1,792
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Here's a closeup of Dave's image
Attached Images
File Type: jpg wiper phaeton.jpg (61.4 KB, 71 views)
Don Rogers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 12:16 PM   #12
DavidG
Senior Member
 
DavidG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: southeastern Michigan
Posts: 10,101
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Don,

Thanks! I can almost see the notches in the stamped piece.

I believe you're right that the cabriolet spacer, while the correct configuration, is longer than that used on the phaeton/roadster.

Sheldon,

Those presently on eBay are for the cabriolet/convertible sedan which in this instance is unfortunate.

Dave
DavidG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 12:30 PM   #13
33rds
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sweden
Posts: 93
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Here are some pictures of a roadster / phaeton wiper motor withe the mounting hardware
Attached Images
File Type: jpg $_57 (14).jpg (43.3 KB, 72 views)
File Type: jpg $_57 (13).jpg (42.3 KB, 73 views)
33rds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 01:06 PM   #14
DavidG
Senior Member
 
DavidG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: southeastern Michigan
Posts: 10,101
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

33rds,

Exactly; thanks!
DavidG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 01:17 PM   #15
Don Rogers
Senior Member
 
Don Rogers's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wildwood, MO. (near St. Louis)
Posts: 1,792
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

To expand on Dave's description:
Closest to the body of the motor is a die cast upside-down L-shaped spacer that fits over the shaft casing. At the outer end of this spacer are two raised protrusions positioned horizontally opposite one another. (SEE "A" IN IMAGE)

In front of that is a stamped upside-down L-shaped piece (SEE "B" IN IMAGE) with horizontal notches on each side of the hole in the center. These notches line up with the protrusions on the die cast spacer. The foot of the "L" fits over the top of the windshield frame securing the whole assembly in place once the rubber "C" and flat washers "D" and nut "E" on the outside of the windshield frame are in place on the end of the shaft casing.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Roadster-Phaeton Wiper mtg hdw.jpg (24.9 KB, 39 views)
Don Rogers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 01:19 PM   #16
deuce lover
Senior Member
 
deuce lover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Southern France
Posts: 5,305
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidG View Post
Don,

Thanks! I can almost see the notches in the stamped piece.

I believe you're right that the cabriolet spacer, while the correct configuration, is longer than that used on the phaeton/roadster.

Sheldon,

Those presently on eBay are for the cabriolet/convertible sedan which in this instance is unfortunate.

Dave
Dave, I knew that. I happen to have a shaft w/paddle & threaded collar .and a simple switch is all that is necessary.If Fredys needs it he can have it(free).Sheldon
deuce lover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 01:24 PM   #17
DavidG
Senior Member
 
DavidG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: southeastern Michigan
Posts: 10,101
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Sheldon,

Please let Fredys know that you have those. Plus he will need Don's A and B at a minimum.

Last edited by DavidG; 04-10-2016 at 02:15 PM.
DavidG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2016, 05:23 AM   #18
fmedina
Member
 
fmedina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Canary Island, Spain
Posts: 57
Default Re: 35-36 Open car Trico wiper motor

Many thanks to all for his contribution and information, good photos, invaluable help and offering.

Regards,
Fredys
fmedina is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:36 AM.