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chuckwp · 08-20-2020, 10:35 AM

I realize this is an old thread but, I am confused. I am eliminating the mechanical pump on a 24 stud motor. So, far I have seen leave the push rod in, leave it in but, cut it off so it does not contact the cam, remove it and plug the hole. This is different for different years.
Can any one clarify?

51 MERC-CT · 08-20-2020, 10:49 AM

24 stud motor means what? 59A or 8BA?

solidaxle · 08-20-2020, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

I have to jump in here (sorry). What elec pump are you using as I want (need) to add one to my 40, still 6Volt??
Paul in CT

The Carter frame mount one works well. Very heavy duty, but noisy at idle. Napa sells them B-0222-E

solidaxle · 08-20-2020, 11:32 AM

Didn't realize this was an old thread.

JSeery · 08-20-2020, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckwp

I realize this is an old thread but, I am confused. I am eliminating the mechanical pump on a 24 stud motor. So, far I have seen leave the push rod in, leave it in but, cut it off so it does not contact the cam, remove it and plug the hole. This is different for different years.
Can any one clarify?

Not sure I understand the question, you listed the options, pick one. There are different bushings between 59a and 8ba, but the same approaches work with both. The 59a can just be left open, but I plug it. The 8ba has a small hole that connects directly to the main oil line, so better plugged. Both series of engines will run fine with nothing done, so up to you. Doesn't get much easier than just leaving the pushrod in. I like to install a press fit plug in any of the years, but that is just me.

big job · 08-21-2020, 06:05 AM

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I see no reason to just let it be than going through all that. My duel action pump took
a dump few years ago - this pump is 5 times more money than the common 8BA pump
if you can find one. I have no clue if the block has the oil hole or not. So the pump
stays as well as the push rod. Electric 6 volt Napa pump. The bad pump makes no
noise its just there. beside that its a super pain to get to this pump cause this is a 337,
with a 1/2 hr just to get the air cleaner off standing on a step ladder. Or many simply
just put a mini hose clamp on the rod to raise it but the rod only travels up & down just
a little bit.....

Bailey41 · 09-04-2020, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by big job

Just leave the push rod in there. Won't hurt a thing. That's what I did, one of my trucks
with a 337cid fuel pumps for those are big bucks. If concerned just put a mini clamp on the push rod so its above the cam lobe... .This only applys to 8BAs that has an oil hole
in the rod bushing so you could lose some oil pressure so leave it in there......

im putting a electric fuel pump on my 41 sedan with a 302. Where is the best place to mount it. Using a Carter model P4o70

JSeery · 09-05-2020, 03:41 PM

It is always best to mount an electric fuel pump as close to the fuel tank as possible and as low as possible. Electric fuel pumps are much better at pushing fuel than they are at pulling fuel. The engine evolved is not a factor in the placement of the fuel pump. Another consideration is keeping it away from heat sources. It is best not to locate it close to an exhaust pipe. And you don't want to route the fuel line where it gets radiant heat off of the exhaust. Electric pumps can be noisy, so might consider some type rubber cushions on the mount.

08-20-2020, 10:35 AM	#21
chuckwp Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 53	Re: fuel pump push rod hole and electic fuel pump I realize this is an old thread but, I am confused. I am eliminating the mechanical pump on a 24 stud motor. So, far I have seen leave the push rod in, leave it in but, cut it off so it does not contact the cam, remove it and plug the hole. This is different for different years. Can any one clarify?

08-20-2020, 10:49 AM	#22
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: fuel pump push rod hole and electic fuel pump 24 stud motor means what? 59A or 8BA? __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

08-20-2020, 11:32 AM	#24
solidaxle Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: upstate NY Posts: 478	Re: fuel pump push rod hole and electic fuel pump Didn't realize this was an old thread.

08-21-2020, 06:05 AM	#26
big job Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Dighton, Mass Posts: 1,230	Re: fuel pump push rod hole and electic fuel pump Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I see no reason to just let it be than going through all that. My duel action pump took a dump few years ago - this pump is 5 times more money than the common 8BA pump if you can find one. I have no clue if the block has the oil hole or not. So the pump stays as well as the push rod. Electric 6 volt Napa pump. The bad pump makes no noise its just there. beside that its a super pain to get to this pump cause this is a 337, with a 1/2 hr just to get the air cleaner off standing on a step ladder. Or many simply just put a mini hose clamp on the rod to raise it but the rod only travels up & down just a little bit.....

09-05-2020, 03:41 PM	#28
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: fuel pump push rod hole and electic fuel pump It is always best to mount an electric fuel pump as close to the fuel tank as possible and as low as possible. Electric fuel pumps are much better at pushing fuel than they are at pulling fuel. The engine evolved is not a factor in the placement of the fuel pump. Another consideration is keeping it away from heat sources. It is best not to locate it close to an exhaust pipe. And you don't want to route the fuel line where it gets radiant heat off of the exhaust. Electric pumps can be noisy, so might consider some type rubber cushions on the mount.