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Blastfromthepast · 03-17-2019, 11:13 PM

Did the 1936 cabriolet club coupe come in a standard model and if so what were the differences between the deluxe and standard. The more specific the better so let’s hear from you guys who know this model. Thanks, Tony.

Terry,OH · 03-18-2019, 05:52 AM

Offered in just the Deluxe only.

Blastfromthepast · 03-19-2019, 10:16 PM

Thanks Terry, that's what I thought. I read some where on Ford Barn that it also came in standard, which made me second guess what I already new. Thanks for your clarification.

Don Rogers · 03-20-2019, 06:15 PM

Here is some Ford introductory material describing the new Club Cab.

Kube · 03-20-2019, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Rogers

Here is some Ford introductory material describing the new Club Cab.

I had only one '36 club cabriolet. I thought it was one of the ugliest body styles Ford put out in the 30's.
I didn't have it long.

As a side note:
I saw it on ebay not that terribly long ago. It made it's way out to California and had become quite a historic car by then. Well, at least by the time it was once again advertised.
I had contacted the seller pretending to be an interested (potential) buyer just to hear the BS.
Wow! Nearing the point I could no longer handle the BS, I called him out and explained that I was the former owner and in so many words, told him he was a f.... liar.
I see the car hadn't sold and was later relisted.
This kind of leads me to the recent post by Dave Rehor in regard to ads (policy) on the Barn.

KGS · 03-21-2019, 07:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Rogers

Here is some Ford introductory material describing the new Club Cab.

Interesting marketing approach.
Anyone know what or who (whom?) are the "400"?

tubman · 03-21-2019, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KGS

Interesting marketing approach.
Anyone know what or who (whom?) are the "400"?

Have you ever heard of O. Henry? He wrote a story called "The Four Million". The "400" was a common term used in the gilded age to refer to the "upper crust" of New York City society. He wrote "The Four Million" to refer to the rest of the residents.

Blastfromthepast · 03-21-2019, 08:57 PM

Can anyone tell me all the options deluxe models had.

KGS · 03-22-2019, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tubman

Have you ever heard of O. Henry? He wrote a story called "The Four Million". The "400" was a common term used in the gilded age to refer to the "upper crust" of New York City society. He wrote "The Four Million" to refer to the rest of the residents.

I've read a couple of his works but not that one. Thanks for the info.

19Fordy · 03-23-2019, 09:17 AM

"Kube": Cool that you called the faker out.
Must have been a "shock and awe" moment for him.
PS: You're right. The windshield and roofline detract greatly from their beauty.
39 Ford converts look much better.( Yes, I know they are not cabriolets.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kube

I had only one '36 club cabriolet. I thought it was one of the ugliest body styles Ford put out in the 30's.
I didn't have it long.

As a side note:
I saw it on ebay not that terribly long ago. It made it's way out to California and had become quite a historic car by then. Well, at least by the time it was once again advertised.
I had contacted the seller pretending to be an interested (potential) buyer just to hear the BS.
Wow! Nearing the point I could no longer handle the BS, I called him out and explained that I was the former owner and in so many words, told him he was a f.... liar.
I see the car hadn't sold and was later relisted.
This kind of leads me to the recent post by Dave Rehor in regard to ads (policy) on the Barn.

deuce_roadster · 03-23-2019, 09:26 AM

Kube,
I don't know what the production numbers were but in this area (northwest) if you see a 36- it most likely will be a cabriolet. They must have made a lot of them. What made you recognize that particular car as the one you used to own? Did the guy you talked to make up the big story or was he duped by the previous owner, or was this the person you sold it to? Good for you for setting him stright!

Kube · 03-23-2019, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce_roadster

Kube,
I don't know what the production numbers were but in this area (northwest) if you see a 36- it most likely will be a cabriolet. They must have made a lot of them. What made you recognize that particular car as the one you used to own? Did the guy you talked to make up the big story or was he duped by the previous owner, or was this the person you sold it to? Good for you for setting him stright!

My old club cabriolet was quite unique in that it was highly modified. The early 60's Thunderbird seats were a dead giveaway as was the engine.
I am not 100% certain if the current seller made up the BS or was simply pushing what he had been told.
Regardless, once I'd sent him photos and a thorough description of the car's history, he didn't change his description.
In my book, that makes him complicit to the "crime".

19Fordy · 03-23-2019, 11:17 AM

I just looked in The V-8 Album book and it says on page 84 that 4616 1936 Club Cabriolets reman. It could seat 5 as it had a back seat. No rumble seat. There is a photo of the car on page 90.

On page 88 of same book it says that 14,068 1936 DeLuxe Cabriolets (Model 68-760) were produced. They had a rumbleseat and no back seat.

On page 89 it says that 3,862 1936 Deluxe Roadsters (Model 68-710) were produced. They had a front seat. No rear seat. They had a rumbleseat too.

19Fordy · 03-23-2019, 11:18 AM

Wow! Thanks for posting that "Kube". Quite unique. What a magneto!

Kube · 03-23-2019, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Wow! Thanks for posting that "Kube". Quite unique. What a magneto!

I've attached another photo. This was the day I hauled it home.

Someone had a fun time "building" this. You an easily pick out all of the early 1970's touches. The inside of the top was leopard skin cloth. Grrr baby!

19Fordy · 03-23-2019, 04:05 PM

Those were the days when hot rods were affordable.
i paid $400 for my 40 in 1963. It was stock.
Was making $1.15 per hour. Qt. of milk cost $25.
Can of tuna was 33 cents and 5 lbs of sugar was 59 cents.
Compete 296 stroker kit from crankshaft Co. in CA was about $500.

tubman · 03-23-2019, 06:45 PM

I'm glad I was drinking beer back then and didn't have to buy any milk!

19Fordy · 03-24-2019, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubman

I'm glad I was drinking beer back then and didn't have to buy any milk!

Corrected my high priced moo juice.

aandkt · 12-14-2020, 02:47 PM

If you didn't like your choice of cars, that is your taste. I think Henry was an artist. I like all Fords especially my 1936 Cabriolet.
Enjoy Yours.

rockfla · 12-14-2020, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aandkt

If you didn't like your choice of cars, that is your taste. I think Henry was an artist. I like all Fords especially my 1936 Cabriolet.
Enjoy Yours.

Come on aandkt, lighten up......especially now that it's Christmas!!! We're all friends here, just all with different taste. Que sera sera!!!

DavidG · 12-14-2020, 04:24 PM

Maybe the confusion arises from the terminology. Note in Don's post that it is a club cabriolet, not a cabriolet club coupe.

IMO, from a styling perspective the '36,'37 and '38 club cabriolets suffer from having too much 'greenhouse' relative to their wheelbase/body lengths, whereas the cabriolets of those model years have a very good balance between their 'greenhouses' and their wheelbase/body lengths.

And while it is heresy coming from me, the same applies to '32 3-window coupes and Victorias.

Kube · 12-14-2020, 05:33 PM

I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers by expressing my opinion that club cabriolets are just plain ugly.
I always remember and respect the fact that beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.
Heck, there were (are?) guys that thought the AMC Pacer was a nice looking car.
I rest my case.
I believe DavidG has summed it up nicely with his "greenhouse" analogy.

DavidG · 12-14-2020, 05:46 PM

Within the car industry, 'greenhouse' is used to describe that portion of a car's body from the bottom of the windows on up. It is not my creation, but it does a very good job of summarizing in one word the entirety of the upper portion of a car's body.

Kube · 12-14-2020, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidG

Within the car industry, 'greenhouse' is used to describe that portion of a car's body from the bottom of the windows on up. It is not my creation, but it does a very good job of summarizing in one word the entirety of the upper portion of a car's body.

Thanks David. I continue to learn.

Hey, as much as I love my '40 Fords, the convertible roof line... not so much.

DavidG · 12-14-2020, 07:17 PM

It's on my "too much greenhouse/not enough lower body" list as well.

Blastfromthepast · 12-14-2020, 09:34 PM

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The original post was created by me. I asked what the difference were between
The 1936 standard and deluxe models and if the Cabriolet was a deluxe model.
TerryOh and Don Rogers answer the question but there some how almost all the time
deviates from the subject matter. Try to stick to the subject, that way it won’t go in a different direction.

DavidG · 12-15-2020, 12:06 AM

Yes sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robertriley · 08-30-2021, 09:41 PM

I just purchased a 36 Club. I think the non clubs look better and I love the idea of a rumble seat but it just wasn't practical. I'm always taking out the kids and don't trust the knuckleheads on the streets enough to put anyone in a rumble seat to drive across town. The club just fit what I needed. But to the Deluxe question, what makes a 36 deluxe?

VeryTangled · 08-30-2021, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertriley

But to the Deluxe question, what makes a 36 deluxe?

A bunch of details...

Two tail light stands
Chrome windshield surround (closed cars)
Dual wipers
Chrome horn bell/dual horns
Spare tire cover
Paint offerings
Spedo/odo wheels
Gauges
Dash waterfall
Knob colors
Dash color
locking glove box (late)
Shifter & hand brake finish
Clock mirror (late)

... and more. Someone else can continue.

tubman · 08-30-2021, 10:40 PM

I'm no expert, but I can't believe that Ford would have made a standard Club Cabriolet in '36. Anyone ever seen a Standard '36 3-window?

VeryTangled · 08-30-2021, 10:48 PM

3 window coupes and club cabs were only available in Deluxe for 35 & 36.

All my info here is from Don Rogers' book.

Bored&Stroked · 08-31-2021, 09:46 AM

I have a 32 Cabriolet - and I don't believe Ford ever made a 'Standard' 32 Cab either?

DavidG · 08-31-2021, 10:32 AM

Not even back into Model As was there an offering of a standard model cabriolet; phaetons, roadsters, coupes, and sedans, yes, but never cabriolets or convertible sedans.

Blastfromthepast · 08-31-2021, 09:14 PM

The club cabriolet had a mid year change. The Benton Grey dash changed to wood grain around April 1936.
The interior handles changed from Benton Grey to Brown at the same time.
1935 and 36 gauges were grayish in color. They changed to Brown also when the dash changed to wood grain. The window trim was also wood grained.
There was also a left arm rest added.

03-17-2019, 11:13 PM	#1
Blastfromthepast Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: NY Posts: 318	1936 cabriolet Did the 1936 cabriolet club coupe come in a standard model and if so what were the differences between the deluxe and standard. The more specific the better so let’s hear from you guys who know this model. Thanks, Tony.

03-18-2019, 05:52 AM	#2
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: 1936 cabriolet Offered in just the Deluxe only.

03-19-2019, 10:16 PM	#3
Blastfromthepast Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: NY Posts: 318	Re: 1936 cabriolet Thanks Terry, that's what I thought. I read some where on Ford Barn that it also came in standard, which made me second guess what I already new. Thanks for your clarification.

03-21-2019, 08:57 PM	#8
Blastfromthepast Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: NY Posts: 318	Re: 1936 cabriolet Can anyone tell me all the options deluxe models had.

03-23-2019, 09:26 AM	#11
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: 1936 cabriolet Kube, I don't know what the production numbers were but in this area (northwest) if you see a 36- it most likely will be a cabriolet. They must have made a lot of them. What made you recognize that particular car as the one you used to own? Did the guy you talked to make up the big story or was he duped by the previous owner, or was this the person you sold it to? Good for you for setting him stright!

03-23-2019, 11:17 AM	#13
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: 1936 cabriolet I just looked in The V-8 Album book and it says on page 84 that 4616 1936 Club Cabriolets reman. It could seat 5 as it had a back seat. No rumble seat. There is a photo of the car on page 90. On page 88 of same book it says that 14,068 1936 DeLuxe Cabriolets (Model 68-760) were produced. They had a rumbleseat and no back seat. On page 89 it says that 3,862 1936 Deluxe Roadsters (Model 68-710) were produced. They had a front seat. No rear seat. They had a rumbleseat too.

03-23-2019, 11:18 AM	#14
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: 1936 cabriolet Wow! Thanks for posting that "Kube". Quite unique. What a magneto!

03-23-2019, 04:05 PM	#16
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: 1936 cabriolet Those were the days when hot rods were affordable. i paid $400 for my 40 in 1963. It was stock. Was making $1.15 per hour. Qt. of milk cost $25. Can of tuna was 33 cents and 5 lbs of sugar was 59 cents. Compete 296 stroker kit from crankshaft Co. in CA was about $500.

03-23-2019, 06:45 PM	#17
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,316	Re: 1936 cabriolet I'm glad I was drinking beer back then and didn't have to buy any milk!

12-14-2020, 02:47 PM	#19
aandkt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: LI NY Posts: 222	Re: 1936 cabriolet If you didn't like your choice of cars, that is your taste. I think Henry was an artist. I like all Fords especially my 1936 Cabriolet. Enjoy Yours.

12-14-2020, 04:24 PM	#21
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: 1936 cabriolet Maybe the confusion arises from the terminology. Note in Don's post that it is a club cabriolet, not a cabriolet club coupe. IMO, from a styling perspective the '36,'37 and '38 club cabriolets suffer from having too much 'greenhouse' relative to their wheelbase/body lengths, whereas the cabriolets of those model years have a very good balance between their 'greenhouses' and their wheelbase/body lengths. And while it is heresy coming from me, the same applies to '32 3-window coupes and Victorias.

12-14-2020, 05:33 PM	#22
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,007	Re: 1936 cabriolet I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers by expressing my opinion that club cabriolets are just plain ugly. I always remember and respect the fact that beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. Heck, there were (are?) guys that thought the AMC Pacer was a nice looking car. I rest my case. I believe DavidG has summed it up nicely with his "greenhouse" analogy. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

12-14-2020, 05:46 PM	#23
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: 1936 cabriolet Within the car industry, 'greenhouse' is used to describe that portion of a car's body from the bottom of the windows on up. It is not my creation, but it does a very good job of summarizing in one word the entirety of the upper portion of a car's body.

12-14-2020, 07:17 PM	#25
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: 1936 cabriolet It's on my "too much greenhouse/not enough lower body" list as well.

12-14-2020, 09:34 PM	#26
Blastfromthepast Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: NY Posts: 318	Re: 1936 cabriolet Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The original post was created by me. I asked what the difference were between The 1936 standard and deluxe models and if the Cabriolet was a deluxe model. TerryOh and Don Rogers answer the question but there some how almost all the time deviates from the subject matter. Try to stick to the subject, that way it won’t go in a different direction.

12-15-2020, 12:06 AM	#27
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: 1936 cabriolet Yes sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-30-2021, 09:41 PM	#28
Robertriley Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 25	Re: 1936 cabriolet I just purchased a 36 Club. I think the non clubs look better and I love the idea of a rumble seat but it just wasn't practical. I'm always taking out the kids and don't trust the knuckleheads on the streets enough to put anyone in a rumble seat to drive across town. The club just fit what I needed. But to the Deluxe question, what makes a 36 deluxe?

08-30-2021, 10:40 PM	#30
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,316	Re: 1936 cabriolet I'm no expert, but I can't believe that Ford would have made a standard Club Cabriolet in '36. Anyone ever seen a Standard '36 3-window?

08-30-2021, 10:48 PM	#31
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: 1936 cabriolet 3 window coupes and club cabs were only available in Deluxe for 35 & 36. All my info here is from Don Rogers' book. __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?

08-31-2021, 09:46 AM	#32
Bored&Stroked Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 5,067	Re: 1936 cabriolet I have a 32 Cabriolet - and I don't believe Ford ever made a 'Standard' 32 Cab either?

08-31-2021, 10:32 AM	#33
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: 1936 cabriolet Not even back into Model As was there an offering of a standard model cabriolet; phaetons, roadsters, coupes, and sedans, yes, but never cabriolets or convertible sedans.

08-31-2021, 09:14 PM	#34
Blastfromthepast Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: NY Posts: 318	Re: 1936 cabriolet The club cabriolet had a mid year change. The Benton Grey dash changed to wood grain around April 1936. The interior handles changed from Benton Grey to Brown at the same time. 1935 and 36 gauges were grayish in color. They changed to Brown also when the dash changed to wood grain. The window trim was also wood grained. There was also a left arm rest added.