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Challie · 10-06-2018, 08:18 PM

What weight gear lube should I use in a 1937 ford banjo rear? The stuff that came out was REALLY thick.

Bursonaw · 10-06-2018, 08:27 PM

Original was a straight 140w gear oil.
I have been using 140 multi weight gear oil with no issues.

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Talkwrench · 10-07-2018, 02:42 AM

85 _ 140 mineral will be fine if you're in a moderate climate.

JSeery · 10-07-2018, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bursonaw

Original was a straight 140w gear oil.
I have been using 140 multi weight gear oil with no issues. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

There is actually no such thing as 140w, it would be SAE 140. The "W" is for Winter in the rating system and the most common highest "W" rating for gear oil is 85w. The term "weight" is confusing, it is actually the viscosity rating. Oil/lubes viscosity are tested at two different temperature ranges, a straight viscosity oil/lube is rated at 100 deg C and a Winter rating (W) is rated at -30 deg C. A multi-viscosity oil is good to use where temperature vary.

doghair3 · 10-07-2018, 07:20 AM

Has anyone used the Lubriplate products in the rear end or the transmission? In particular the SPO-277 SAE Gear Oil 140.

https://www.lubriplate.com/Online-St...rt-bottle.html

JSeery · 10-07-2018, 07:30 AM

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Is there a reason you would want to use it? Doesn't seem like the best gear lube to use in a V8 application to me. IMO a modern gear lube would be a better option. Something like an 85w-140.

doghair3 · 10-07-2018, 09:40 AM

I've talked with guy's who have cars other than Fords and they swear by it. First they say the viscosity is much better and it has much better lubricating properties not to mention it most closely comes to the original stuff. I'm also told that transmissions shift much better.

JSeery · 10-07-2018, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by doghair3

I've talked with guy's who have cars other than Fords and they swear by it. First they say the viscosity is much better and it has much better lubricating properties not to mention it most closely comes to the original stuff. I'm also told that transmissions shift much better.

Little hard to believe in a rear axle, the supplier doesn't even recommend it. And the price is a little ridiculous. May be repackaged GL1. Not something I would use, but if your sold on it go for it.

doghair3 · 10-07-2018, 10:28 AM

Pretty much I am. I'm a believer you only get what you pay for.

TomT/Williamsburg · 10-07-2018, 07:46 PM

With the way I drive my avatar every year I change my rear end fluid every year. For some, that may seem too often - but I am not having any issues either. At the speeds and distances I go, that rear is working alot harder than it was intended/designed for. Cheap insurance in my book. I usually run 85-140 or 75-90. Whatever I can get at Advance by Lucas .....

deuce_roadster · 10-07-2018, 07:56 PM

I have been happy with Redline products, they make a product that doesn't harm the yellow metal in trans, I think it has MT after the Viscosity for "manual transmission". I use it in both trans and differential, both stock and Columbia with never an issue.

Tinker · 10-07-2018, 08:03 PM

It's the old oil debate in action. again.

Yes there is oil with higher weight then the 80-90w stuff.

Steam cylinder oil "mobile 600w" is probably as close to the original weight that you can get. Probably around 140-160. It has less additives as it mostly used for cooling equipment and compressors. Available at depo house in 5 gallon buckets.

https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...ght-oil-90978/

You'll be fine with the 90-140w stuff

Tinker · 10-07-2018, 08:12 PM

Quick search for ya Challie

Read this...

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ear+oil+weight

Just a quick note for new people. On the bar above there is a search function with an advanced link. I know not everything is archived but it might be quicker to give it try, then wait for a response. Read up. Just a thought.

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10-06-2018, 08:18 PM	#1
Challie Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 28	Gear lube in a banjo rear What weight gear lube should I use in a 1937 ford banjo rear? The stuff that came out was REALLY thick.

10-06-2018, 08:27 PM	#2
Bursonaw Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 345	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear Original was a straight 140w gear oil. I have been using 140 multi weight gear oil with no issues. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

10-07-2018, 02:42 AM	#3
Talkwrench Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 2,687	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear 85 _ 140 mineral will be fine if you're in a moderate climate. __________________ *"Came too close to dying to stop living now!"*

10-07-2018, 07:20 AM	#5
doghair3 Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Venetia, Pa. Posts: 51	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear Has anyone used the Lubriplate products in the rear end or the transmission? In particular the SPO-277 SAE Gear Oil 140. https://www.lubriplate.com/Online-St...rt-bottle.html

10-07-2018, 07:30 AM	#6
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Is there a reason you would want to use it? Doesn't seem like the best gear lube to use in a V8 application to me. IMO a modern gear lube would be a better option. Something like an 85w-140.

10-07-2018, 09:40 AM	#7
doghair3 Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Venetia, Pa. Posts: 51	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear I've talked with guy's who have cars other than Fords and they swear by it. First they say the viscosity is much better and it has much better lubricating properties not to mention it most closely comes to the original stuff. I'm also told that transmissions shift much better.

10-07-2018, 10:28 AM	#9
doghair3 Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Venetia, Pa. Posts: 51	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear Pretty much I am. I'm a believer you only get what you pay for.

10-07-2018, 07:46 PM	#10
TomT/Williamsburg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Williamsburg, Virginia Posts: 2,654	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear With the way I drive my avatar every year I change my rear end fluid every year. For some, that may seem too often - but I am not having any issues either. At the speeds and distances I go, that rear is working alot harder than it was intended/designed for. Cheap insurance in my book. I usually run 85-140 or 75-90. Whatever I can get at Advance by Lucas ..... __________________ Run to the LA Roadster Show - 2016 My Run to Bonneville - 2013 My 32 5-Window Build My Run to the LSRU

10-07-2018, 07:56 PM	#11
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,799	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear I have been happy with Redline products, they make a product that doesn't harm the yellow metal in trans, I think it has MT after the Viscosity for "manual transmission". I use it in both trans and differential, both stock and Columbia with never an issue.

10-07-2018, 08:03 PM	#12
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear It's the old oil debate in action. again. Yes there is oil with higher weight then the 80-90w stuff. Steam cylinder oil "mobile 600w" is probably as close to the original weight that you can get. Probably around 140-160. It has less additives as it mostly used for cooling equipment and compressors. Available at depo house in 5 gallon buckets. https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...ght-oil-90978/ You'll be fine with the 90-140w stuff

10-07-2018, 08:12 PM	#13
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Gear lube in a banjo rear Quick search for ya Challie Read this... https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ear+oil+weight Just a quick note for new people. On the bar above there is a search function with an advanced link. I know not everything is archived but it might be quicker to give it try, then wait for a response. Read up. Just a thought. . Last edited by Tinker; 10-07-2018 at 08:40 PM.