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Simonpie · 04-06-2015, 08:20 AM

Simon from Oregon here.

I picked up a running but worn all over 31 stripped down to a speedster pickup. It looks better than that sounds. My problem is I still can't wrap my head around the transmission and I don't have enough experience to tell if I'm just a klutz. I can shift back and forth from 2nd to 3rd or, maybe an occasional grind. I can't get 1st except at a dead stop. If I start in first, I can only get 2nd about 5% of the time. It takes a super low RPM shift, with very smooth motion and a lot of hope. I can't get 2nd or 3rd at a stop. It won't ever go from 1st to 3rd. I checked the clutch adjustment, since drag there can cause issues but it is by the book and works fine. Ideas? Both mechanical and technique wise are welcome.
A search of this site brought up a lot of popping out of gear problems, but I've never had that happen.

Thanks.

Jon · 04-06-2015, 08:23 AM

Do you know how to double clutch?

Jwilli · 04-06-2015, 08:23 AM

Are you double clutching as you shift?

Mitch//pa · 04-06-2015, 08:29 AM

make sure your idle speed is set low...

shift from 1-2 about 6mph and 2-3 approx 12 mph

Simonpie · 04-06-2015, 08:57 AM

If you mean letting the clutch out as I pass through neutral, then back in as I go into the next gear, yes, that helps in 2-3 and 3-2. It seems to have no effect going from 1-2.
I hadn't thought about idle speed. I'll have to fiddle with that.
From the first few responses, it sounds like me more than machine.

Big hammer · 04-06-2015, 08:57 AM

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600w gear oil in transmission

BILL WILLIAMSON · 04-06-2015, 09:09 AM

Sounds kinda' "normal"---You'll get the "HANG" OF IT!!
Bill W.

Tom Wesenberg · 04-06-2015, 09:17 AM

Shift as Mitch said and make sure the engine isn't idling faster than 500 RPM, and have 600W gear oil in the tranny as Big hammer said.

Once those are correct, then when you get to about 6 MPH, push in the clutch and shift to neutral. Let the clutch out and let the engine slow down for a few seconds, then push the clutch back in and shift to second. Once I reach about 15 MPH, I push the clutch in and shift to neutral. Then let the clutch out and let the engine slow for a few seconds, then push the clutch in and shift to third.

When you downshift you push the clutch in and shift to neutral from high at about 15 MPH. Then let the clutch out and rev the engine (usually more rev than you'd think), then push the clutch in and shift to second. I almost never downshift to first, but if I do I make sure I'm going no faster than about 5 MPH.

Synchromesh.........what a great invention.

Jacksonlll · 04-06-2015, 09:37 AM

This video should help you. jack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhL5Pv9dcnc

Mike V. Florida · 04-06-2015, 01:57 PM

Welcome to the Forum.

Goldhardt · 04-06-2015, 04:11 PM

Welcome to the Barn! There is a wealth of information flowing around in here. Use it and enjoy it. Lets see some pictures of your ride!!

Simonpie · 04-06-2015, 08:15 PM

Looks like all I need is to be sure I have 600W in the tranny (I think I do, but fresh oil is on the way), lower the idle a bit, and fix the loose nut behind the wheel. It looks like rain for a week, so it might take a bit.

Thanks.

Mitch//pa · 04-06-2015, 08:17 PM

wow nice rig

RonC · 04-06-2015, 09:54 PM

http://youtu.be/oMeHUTw9jkk

Goldhardt · 04-07-2015, 10:28 AM

Nice ride! It looks like it would be a hoot to drive around town! Get her out there and enjoy it!

Rojo · 04-07-2015, 11:09 AM

Welcome! Lots of help here....I was going to suggest that you watch Jack Bahm's YouTube video on this very subject but see he already beat me to the posting. Again, enjoy your car and have fun.

04-06-2015, 08:20 AM	#1
Simonpie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Portland Or Posts: 137	New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Simon from Oregon here. I picked up a running but worn all over 31 stripped down to a speedster pickup. It looks better than that sounds. My problem is I still can't wrap my head around the transmission and I don't have enough experience to tell if I'm just a klutz. I can shift back and forth from 2nd to 3rd or, maybe an occasional grind. I can't get 1st except at a dead stop. If I start in first, I can only get 2nd about 5% of the time. It takes a super low RPM shift, with very smooth motion and a lot of hope. I can't get 2nd or 3rd at a stop. It won't ever go from 1st to 3rd. I checked the clutch adjustment, since drag there can cause issues but it is by the book and works fine. Ideas? Both mechanical and technique wise are welcome. A search of this site brought up a lot of popping out of gear problems, but I've never had that happen. Thanks.

04-06-2015, 08:23 AM	#2
Jon Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kalamazoo, MI USA Posts: 166	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Do you know how to double clutch? __________________ John - Kalamazoo, MI

04-06-2015, 08:23 AM	#3
Jwilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Kennesaw, Ga Posts: 511	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Are you double clutching as you shift?

04-06-2015, 08:29 AM	#4
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. make sure your idle speed is set low... shift from 1-2 about 6mph and 2-3 approx 12 mph

04-06-2015, 08:57 AM	#5
Simonpie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Portland Or Posts: 137	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. If you mean letting the clutch out as I pass through neutral, then back in as I go into the next gear, yes, that helps in 2-3 and 3-2. It seems to have no effect going from 1-2. I hadn't thought about idle speed. I'll have to fiddle with that. From the first few responses, it sounds like me more than machine.

04-06-2015, 08:57 AM	#6
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) 600w gear oil in transmission

04-06-2015, 09:09 AM	#7
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Sounds kinda' "normal"---You'll get the "HANG" OF IT!! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

04-06-2015, 09:17 AM	#8
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Shift as Mitch said and make sure the engine isn't idling faster than 500 RPM, and have 600W gear oil in the tranny as Big hammer said. Once those are correct, then when you get to about 6 MPH, push in the clutch and shift to neutral. Let the clutch out and let the engine slow down for a few seconds, then push the clutch back in and shift to second. Once I reach about 15 MPH, I push the clutch in and shift to neutral. Then let the clutch out and let the engine slow for a few seconds, then push the clutch in and shift to third. When you downshift you push the clutch in and shift to neutral from high at about 15 MPH. Then let the clutch out and rev the engine (usually more rev than you'd think), then push the clutch in and shift to second. I almost never downshift to first, but if I do I make sure I'm going no faster than about 5 MPH. Synchromesh.........what a great invention.

04-06-2015, 09:37 AM	#9
Jacksonlll Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Michigan-- Member of Oakleaf of MARC Posts: 1,686	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. This video should help you. jack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhL5Pv9dcnc

04-06-2015, 01:57 PM	#10
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Welcome to the Forum. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

04-06-2015, 04:11 PM	#11
Goldhardt Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Commercial Point, Ohio Posts: 239	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Welcome to the Barn! There is a wealth of information flowing around in here. Use it and enjoy it. Lets see some pictures of your ride!!

04-06-2015, 08:17 PM	#13
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. wow nice rig

04-06-2015, 09:54 PM	#14
RonC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,868	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. http://youtu.be/oMeHUTw9jkk

04-07-2015, 10:28 AM	#15
Goldhardt Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Commercial Point, Ohio Posts: 239	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Nice ride! It looks like it would be a hoot to drive around town! Get her out there and enjoy it!

04-07-2015, 11:09 AM	#16
Rojo Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 35	Re: New to forum, new Model A owner. Tranny Q. Welcome! Lots of help here....I was going to suggest that you watch Jack Bahm's YouTube video on this very subject but see he already beat me to the posting. Again, enjoy your car and have fun.