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08-10-2017, 08:54 PM | #1 |
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What are these wheels?
Artillery type. Got the axle from a place where I was buying a load of salvaged lumber for a project.
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Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson) |
08-10-2017, 09:30 PM | #2 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
The wheels look like '36 Chevrolet.
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08-10-2017, 09:45 PM | #3 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
5 lug. Looked a lot like ford 5 on 5 1/2 but I didn't measure them. I thought chevs were always 6 lug. Oh rats....
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Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson) |
08-10-2017, 09:53 PM | #4 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
chevys are 6 lug.. until at least 48 in car.. and I think later in truck..
if that was always a trailer axle.. Maybe what you is a mullins trailer axle and the wheels?
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08-10-2017, 10:32 PM | #5 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
Back in the 50's I had a complete set of those on a Model A pickup. I think they were made by General Tire.
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08-10-2017, 10:53 PM | #6 |
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Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson) |
08-11-2017, 12:04 AM | #7 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
Not Jumbo's.Chrysler also had the same bolt pattern as Ford.
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08-11-2017, 06:11 AM | #8 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
They look similar to a set I used to own that were fitted to a Model A but the cap area looks more raised on the wheels above...
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08-11-2017, 03:22 PM | #9 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
Now you have to build a car to use them and then go out and find another pair to match...
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08-11-2017, 03:26 PM | #10 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
I have one and have had more in the past. Mine had the indent on the mounting surface for the nubs on a pre-36 hub. So you know they were made for old Fords. I guessed they were made by an early aftermarket, but I don't know who.
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08-11-2017, 06:14 PM | #11 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
Gary - I've got a 1935 Kelsey Hayes color advertisement folder, a 1938 color dealer marketing package, and a 1941 color fold out parts listing that show they were aftermarket "change-over" wheels. As the country was coming out of the Great Depression there emerged a market for stylish wheels. It could be that the other primary companies, Budd and Motor Wheel, also offered similar wheels. My records are for K-H. Stu
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08-11-2017, 09:23 PM | #12 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
They have 13 'spokes'. The General jumbos have 11 from what I see on google images. I have 2 more similar wheels but they are a funny 5 lug like 5 on 6" but look a lot alike. On another note I just got back from driving the woodie to visit a friend about 3 miles away.
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08-12-2017, 08:13 PM | #13 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
The K-H wheels in my sales materials have 14 spokes. Stu
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08-14-2017, 12:07 PM | #14 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
I have encountered similar wheels, we bought five wheels from a junk yard in Idaho that were very similar, with a 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern, which is Ford and Mopar. A lot of research turned up a listing for Motor Rim during the mid thirties, the brochure called the rims "Sun Burst", they were an original orange color with faint pin stripping on the spokes, rim was 15x6.5.. My friend put them on his RAT Rod.
I think the style of the wheel indicts that they were intended for large cars, Chrysler, etc. and or pickups/station wagons.. Several years ago I had a '36 International 1/2 ton that had similar wheels.
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Those are Kelsey hayes Sunburst accessory wheels for fords. There may have been chrome under the black paint.
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05-26-2018, 11:27 AM | #17 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
You win on the recount, Pete! I just counted 14 spokes. Now I just need 2 more! Or I put them on my old box trailer.
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05-26-2018, 08:01 PM | #18 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
My 16" general jumbos have 9 spokes
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05-27-2018, 12:08 AM | #19 |
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Re: What are these wheels?
The much sought after "bent spoke KH wheels have 14 spokes. Each long spoke crosses two others. Motor wheel is easily mistaken for KH but each long spoke only crosses one other long spoke. Close, but no cigar.
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