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Old 08-07-2014, 09:10 AM   #1
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Default How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

I'm working on my own Woody / Huckster body. Working partly from plans. The body is being mounted against a 31 cowl. The plans don't really show detailed pics of how the wood of the body fits up against the cowl. Due to the profile of the door posts and having removed the door hinges wondered if a welt fit in the vertical gap of the post. Would love to see pic's of this area from some Barners.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:26 AM   #2
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Default Re: How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

Considering much the same for a 29 Truck Cowl that I have in the barn.

It seems that period builders did one of two things:

Either they took the cowl as cowl and discarded the doorposts and windshields. The body would be made up with (usually) a square windshield, and the wooden huckster body posts would be "cut & fitted" around the curved tumble home of the gas tank and cowl.

OR - they used a commercial vehicle cowl including the door posts and windshield and simply "mated" that directly to the wooden body box (possibly with appropriate filler pieces where necessary.) Look at the 150A '29 Station Wagon for example. The doorposts and windshield are the same as the 82A CC pickup with only minor differences around the hinge area (82A is punched for hinges - 150A is not)

Now mating to a non-commercial vehicle cowl/doorpost is likely to be a bit "different." The assembly is IIRC "shorter" than the commercial variants and you need to proportion your body to match the non-commercial parts.

Thus I can see you need pix to see how others have done it.

You can search Google under terms "Model A Huckster" and then click "Images" on the top header. MANY pages of hucksters here, including all kinds. But you can mentally filter out those of interest to you. (You have to understand the Google search criteria: they provide first pix involving the complete search term, then they break it down into terms word by word - so you'll likely see a lot of Model T Hucksters in the mix.)

Good luck with this. We'll be watching with interest if you can provide us your pix too.

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Default Re: How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

On the station wagon, the doors mount directly to the cowl using a piano hinge. The header is wood.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:55 PM   #4
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Default Re: How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

On these plans a wood piece attaches to the backside of the cowl from the top of the windshield post to the floor. I want a pick of how that gap is addressed . I'll see if I can get a pic so all can see what I'm talking about.
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Default Re: How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

James here are some pictures of my huckster where it fits to the front door frame and window. If I can't get them all in this one post, I will try another. If you have more questions or need more pictures, send me a PM with your email and I will send more.
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Old 08-08-2014, 05:47 PM   #6
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Thanks Fred. That's exactly what I wanted to see. A welt was the only thing I could think of doing. Great pic's.
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Default Re: How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

That would appear to be the standard "Hydem" welt - but pushed into the corner and nailed to the vertical wood?

And do you know what body those doorposts came from? From the look of the D-nuts it would appear to have been from either the 150A Station Wagon or possibly 82A CC pickup. Didn't tudors and other closed cars in that year have a different bracket to hold the mirror?

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Default Re: How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

The doorposts were a 1929 CCPU. As you can see, I should have taken out the old review mirror mounting posts when I put on the new type mirrors. But I was to much in a hurry to get the job done. Also one of these days I need to straighten out the welt above the front window.
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Default Re: How Woody/ Huckster body fits to cowl.

Interesting that the top panel of the pickup posts/windshield frame was seemingly not used in the construction. The 150A Wagons did use this - and kept the fabric covered sun shade.

Still, the effect is very natural and looks much as a period car might have.

I'd leave the D-nuts. Put dome headed bolts into them to keep water out.

More than likely the doorposts will outlive the wooden parts of the body.

Forward looking statement there...

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Interesting that the top panel of the pickup posts/windshield frame was seemingly not used in the construction. The 150A Wagons did use this - and kept the fabric covered sun shade.

Still, the effect is very natural and looks much as a period car might have.

I'd leave the D-nuts. Put dome headed bolts into them to keep water out.

More than likely the doorposts will outlive the wooden parts of the body.

Forward looking statement there...

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Yes I did take the top panel off the frame. (BTW I think I still have it around here somewhere if someone wants it). And the body just bolted onto the door posts. Also BTW the body is a Lentsville body from Holland MI.
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