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04-24-2017, 09:44 AM | #21 |
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Re: VanPelt 47 Tranny Rebuild
I thought the same thing.
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Transmission was sent March 21st and received back May 4th. Mac had warned me he was backed up and there would be a delay getting to mine. I sent my transmission with two problems to fix: First gear shot, and popping out of second when holding back on a descent. First gear is now nice and smooth and quiet (required replacement of the cluster gear and the first gear). Unfortunately, second gear still pops out. Really annoying. In one email there was discussion about replacing the second gear. That wasn't done. May have solved the problem. Syncros all work well so that's nice, but they were working fine before. As for the reasonableness of his charges, that can only be determined by knowing what all of his competitors charge for the same speed and quality of work. As I have no information about that I can not say. I feel fine about his charges. I just wish the second gear popping out would have gone away. I did get a nice result from my new clutch from Ft. Wayne clutch - my nagging clutch chatter is gone - at least for now. Hope it stays away.
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05-22-2017, 06:27 AM | #23 |
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That is a very fair price.
I doubt if there are still many people who really know how to diagnose and can actually repair these old transmissions- not just change parts and hope for the best. |
05-22-2017, 06:51 AM | #24 |
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Did you get a picture of the crate?? (I'm kinda like the kid who gets a toy and would rather play with the box it came in.)
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Thrilled that you lost the chatter. I was one, certain to blame the fly wheel.
[Quote] Out of 5,794 views of my thread on the clutch disc problems* not one single person said, "That's the wrong disc" which it turned out to be. Holding second is a drudge.
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Worn engine mounts?
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05-22-2017, 06:46 PM | #28 |
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Your cost in that overhaul is well above board the way I see it. Labor rate is right along the norms for this day and age and times reflect someone who knows what they are doing and how long it takes to do it. The only way you could have done better would be to buy the parts and do all the work yourself.
That second gear relies on the condition of that phosphor bronze bushing in there. If it gets loose or deteriorated it will be problematic. Another reason for folks to stick with mild or no EP in their transmission lubricant. |
05-22-2017, 07:20 PM | #29 |
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Popping out of second gear would be annoying especially after spending that much on a rebuild. Did you contact VanPelt about the problem? I have a friend who used them for a 39 trans in a 32 , he was experiencing the same problem but it went away after the rebuild.
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What is EP that you say to avoid in transmission oil? What oils have it to avoid and which ones don't that should be used?
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05-23-2017, 08:42 AM | #33 |
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Agree. I wouldn't hesitate to send a tranny to Mac he is by far the best in his field from all to whom I have spoken with on this
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05-23-2017, 08:52 AM | #34 |
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EP is the Extreme Pressure additive that is added to gear oil. The EP content is indicated by the GL rating. GL-5 is has a high EP rating, GL-4 has a low EP rating. High levels of EP additives are required by modern rear axle gears but can damage (over time) yellow metals in transmissions. There are many past threads on this topic if anyone is interested in more detail.
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05-23-2017, 08:54 AM | #35 |
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I agree with that. Just putting the linkage back where it was before transmission was removed for rebuild does not mean that it's correct. Mac knows enough about these early Ford transmissions to make sure whatever causes popping out of gear is corrected in the rebuild, and I'm sure he would have done that. Check linkage and adjust if necessary.
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Also check the brass bushings on the steering column linkage and the linkage itself.
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The 51A-7102 intermediate gear is an assembly. I've never seen the bushing sold separately due to it being so thin. A person just has to replace the whole assembly if the bushing is worn.
I think Mac has to modify now to use the 81A-7102 due to lack of availability of the 51A part so this can get expensive. The older type part has to have the earlier type main shaft with the locking pin to work if I remember correctly. If you can find an NOS 51A-7102 then it would just be a single replacement. Big if there. I haven't seen one on flea-pay for a long time and folks bid them up that know what they are. |
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Both rating appear because GL-5 is backward compatible with GL-4 EXCEPT for the yellow metal issue. It's a shame to expose new syncros to GL-5, if it was me I would drain the GL-5 out and replace it. Some GL-5 gear lubes claim to be compatible with yellow metals, might check that out.
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