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05-09-2020, 05:17 PM | #21 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
usually too lazy to get the offset for the distributor covered head nut..when retorquing I run the wrench through the rest and get a feel of how far Im turning to achieve torque..then do the distributor or the water neck with a wrench..your not seating the gasket,your pulling stretch out of the stud,it doesn't have to be exact..turn the torque wrench 3/4 of a turn? turn the wrench 3/4 of a turn..
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05-09-2020, 06:28 PM | #22 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
HOW TO COMPUTE TORQUE WHEN USING ADAPTORS
http://www.torqwrench.com/Info/FAQ.html If an adaptor or extension is attached to the square drive of a click-type torque wrench and this adds to its length, then the applied torque will be greater than the pre-set torque. A formula can be used to find what the preset-set torque should be in order to obtain the correct applied torque. the above link has the formula
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05-09-2020, 07:30 PM | #23 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
Here’s a good YouTube explanation using crows foot attached to a torque wrench.
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05-10-2020, 08:45 AM | #24 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
Does anyone realize how many head gaskets have been replaced since 1928 on A's. B's, and V8's WITHOUT a torque wrench and ran just fine??
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05-10-2020, 10:26 AM | #26 |
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05-10-2020, 12:12 PM | #27 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
Good Morning...Many of us don't use a gasket on the water outlet. We file them absolutely flat with a big rasp or on a belt sander and then put them on with a light coat of Copper Coat or some such and then tighten them down to 55 pounds. The problem is that the gaskets compress at a different speed under the ears and that is what breaks the ears...Ernie in Arizona
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05-10-2020, 05:23 PM | #28 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
Yup, either a thin-wall or grinding on your own socket. And for the other a crows-foot is fine and won't make much of a difference in the torque to worry about. Its a Model A.
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
I just use a wrench on the water neck, but luckily my wrists have been calibrated
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05-10-2020, 08:51 PM | #30 |
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This is the water spout I just installed. http://www.vintageprecision.com/prod...ing/index.html
Does anyone know if the ears are weak like the original part? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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05-11-2020, 10:41 AM | #32 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
If you have some nuts loose, you should drain the coolant so that it does not flow into the crankcase. I have just changed the cylinder head gasket and managed to break the outlet casting. I got a new one from Snyders and they recommend putting a paper match to the outside of the two studs. I used RTV instead of a gasket the second time around and torqued to 50 ft-lbs. No problems so far. Ed
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05-11-2020, 03:26 PM | #33 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
Yes, unfortunately the OP didn't mention he had a Vintage Precision water neck until post #30 so I am afraid some of my responses and responses by others may not be corrector pertain to the Vintage Precision unit. I was thinking he was installing a stock type of neck with the provision for a TI in it.
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05-11-2020, 07:43 PM | #34 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
I have the VP thermostat housing on both my Model A's for 5 years. Both were installed using my Craftsman 3/8" drive 11/16" socket, fits just fine with clearance between the OD of socket and side of thermostat housing.
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05-12-2020, 11:14 AM | #35 |
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
When I started working on this 1930 coupe I found this tool set,ordered it and didn't know what most of it did.I have used all but three of these tools and will use them some day and I know now what they all do, the u shaped tool to torque the nut that hides behind the distributor might fit the pump nuts too.https://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/M1010.html.
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I ordered one from Bratton’s or Snyder’s, I don’t recall which. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I'd love to find an original Snap-on or Bonney obstruction offset wrench for sale. What sort of money do they go for?
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Re: Need to re-torque head, but socket is too fat
I see the snap-on obstruction wrench's on e-bay regularly in the $20-$40 range.
They never say anything about model A just listed as an 11/16 obstruction wrench Last edited by Phil Brown; 05-19-2020 at 11:03 PM. |
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Great, thank you. Searched "11/16 obstruction wrench" on ebay and found this 12 point head for a Pontiac for under $20, hope it will do the job.
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