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Old 11-06-2014, 10:29 AM   #1
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Anxious to hear hold Old Henry's rebuild is coming
along....is he going to be ready for the upcoming trip?

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Old 11-06-2014, 07:31 PM   #2
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Old 11-06-2014, 08:06 PM   #3
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Here I am: http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...=1#post976443s

Just heading on the road trip with Pepe and Old Henry that I just picked up and was delivered to me without any additional charges.
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Looking forward to the next episode of "Travels With Pepe".
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Super that you're back on the road!!

Look forward to hearing about your trip.
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When you have a chance go back & read all the threads / although some were sounding negative & there wanted you to rebuild it there way. It really shows how forgiving these Flatheads are , and there are many / many ways to get to the ultimate
end which is Getting on the road , keep the dirty side down & the shinny side up.

Also where is this trip taking you & Pepe ?
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Enjoy your trip! We're all there with you in spirit!
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:06 AM   #8
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Hope you have a safe trip, keep us informed.
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:44 PM   #9
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I drove 300 miles last night and today on a quick overnight road trip with Pepe. We just headed down the highway southbound and stopped when I was too tired to drive any more. Stayed in a dive motel built of cinder blocks in the 20's run by a guy that lived in an old rock house next door built during the civil war.



The engine ran smoother than it ever has. I was accidentally creeping up to 75-80 mph without even realizing it, and could still see through my mirrors (previously at those speeds I'd have just enough vibration to shake the mirrors so I couldn't see clearly through them.)
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:42 PM   #10
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Glad to see that your up and running again. Enjoy the ride!
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:26 PM   #11
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Hope you broke a bottle of champagne over the bumper first. Wish I could hear that engine. You find some great places for overnights (no interior pictures ?). Best regards .........
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Wish I could hear that engine. Best regards .........
The engine isn't much to listen too installed with the muffler on. One place I stopped for gas the guy asked, "Is that a flathead V8? It sure is quiet." That's basically the sound of the engine installed hooked to the muffler - quiet.

But, just in case you missed it, here's the video of starting it up on the engine stand before it was installed. I took the video with my old video camera that isn't as good at capturing the video as it is capturing the sound better than my new camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtDnCi6x21I
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Old 11-07-2014, 11:11 PM   #13
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You find some great places for overnights (no interior pictures ?). Best regards .........
That was the place I ended up with late at night after being turned away from others that wouldn't take Pepe in. Didn't really get a good look at it until morning. Was just lucky I guess.
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Great fun I'm sure. Glad all is well!
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:41 AM   #15
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Now, it should outlast you! Great!! Then, your memory will live on.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:50 AM   #16
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I
m glad you got it running good, Now have fun and keep the shiny side up. I need those movies.
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The engine isn't much to listen too installed with the muffler on. One place I stopped for gas the guy asked, "Is that a flathead V8? It sure is quiet." That's basically the sound of the engine installed hooked to the muffler - quiet.

But, just in case you missed it, here's the video of starting it up on the engine stand before it was installed. I took the video with my old video camera that isn't as good at capturing the video as it is capturing the sound better than my new camera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtDnCi6x21I
Sounds like the carburetor is vibration-free too!
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Sounds like your guys got it right the second time. I hope it gives you years of good service.
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And away you goooooooo.....

Hope you brought your torque wrench so you can re-torque the heads. Your only a few hundred miles away to the first cycle. . But that was yesterday!!!

Engine sounds great! Happy travels!
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:12 PM   #20
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When you have a chance go back & read all the threads / although some were sounding negative & there wanted you to rebuild it there way. It really shows how forgiving these Flatheads are , and there are many / many ways to get to the ultimate
end which is Getting on the road , keep the dirty side down & the shinny side up.

Also where is this trip taking you & Pepe ?
I did re-read all of the comments on all of the threads related to my bearing failure. The things I learned are:

Don't lug the engine
Avoid premature detonation
Avoid overly rich A/F ratio
No "hot rodding"

The better the oil the longer the bearings may last. I've switched to Mobile 1 full synthetic 10W-30 multi-vis rather than the NAPA S.A.E. 30 I have been running. And, change the oil more often since the filter does not filter all of the oil. I've been changing oil and filter every 5,000 miles. I'll probably switch to 2,500 for the oil and 5,000 for the filter.

Where there's a will there's a way. I never thought I'd get my engine fixed within two miles of where I live. But, even though the mechanics had to go through a bit of a "learning curve", I did get it fixed as well as I could have anywhere else and it now runs better than it ever has and is better than new in my opinion - guaranteeing many more happy miles and smiles.

Any other lessons I missed?
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You home or are you still going making up for lost time / LOL lol LOL
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My trip was delayed a day waiting for a new bearing the better machinist thought ought to be replaced so I just had an overnighter leaving Thursday night and coming back Friday morning. Still got in 300 miles.
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"The better the oil the longer the bearings may last. I've switched to Mobile 1 full synthetic 10W-30 multi-vis rather than the NAPA S.A.E. 30 I have been running. And, change the oil more often since the filter does not filter all of the oil. I've been changing oil and filter every 5,000 miles. I'll probably switch to 2,500 for the oil and 5,000 for the filter. "End of quote.

I was taught that changing your oil and leaving the old filter is like washing your feet and putting on dirty socks back on.

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"The better the oil the longer the bearings may last. I've switched to Mobile 1 full synthetic 10W-30 multi-vis rather than the NAPA S.A.E. 30 I have been running. And, change the oil more often since the filter does not filter all of the oil. I've been changing oil and filter every 5,000 miles. I'll probably switch to 2,500 for the oil and 5,000 for the filter. "End of quote.

I was taught that changing your oil and leaving the old filter is like washing your feet and putting on dirty socks back on.
You may be right. I just thought since the filter didn't actually get used much by not filtering all of the oil it would probably still be OK for another round. I may change my mind on that. Thanks for the advice.
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It's good so see that you are on the road again. Enjoy the miles and I am looking forward to pictures and videos. Craig
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As clean as the insides of your engine are to start with, Prof, changing the filter every other oil change isn't going to hurt a thing. With a full-flow filter there is a lot more oil inside the canister than there is with our bypass filters. As I recall, your canister even has an oil drain, doesn't it?
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One good tip is to keep your old filter and whatever dirty oil is in it, and you can
save a couple bucks. So what if your New Oil is now contaminated somewhat.

Another good tip is to turn your underware inside out, instead of changing into new ones, to save a couple bucks. So what if you don't smell to good after that.

Sometimes saving a couple bucks now, costs you in many ways in the longrun.
Glad you got Old Henry back on the road, and having fun with it.












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Henry:
So lets say 70% of the oil gets filtered ( just using that % for this example )
why don't we just change 30% of the oil~~ LOL LOL ~~
I don't know about you but to me there is nothing feels as nice as a new pair of socks !!
Filters are not that expensive /// Try using your coffee filter a 2nd time how's that coffee taste.
Old Henry deserves a new SOCK (AKA FILTER ) every oil change.
And as you know the BARN will provide a lot of opinions such as I have just provided, but in the end it is you car and your choice in what you do.

NOW GET AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER AND START YOUR ( and our ) NEXT ADVENTURE !!
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I think I have read all the posts but maybe missed the answer .What was causing the vibration ?
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I think I have read all the posts but maybe missed the answer .What was causing the vibration ?
It turned out that quite a bit of balancing needed doing all around.
One of the connecting rods was "odd" and weighed 30 grams less than the rest, so some metal had to come off of all the rest to get them all the same weight. (Metal taken off of the bottom edge of the connecting rod caps.)



The crankshaft also needed quite a bit of "adjusting" to be balanced. (Note holes drilled to remove metal to balance)




It's no wonder such needed doing when the original crank was missing a chunk of metal at one point from casting problems.





Then there was the new clutch I just bought from Fort Wayne Clutch that needed weight added to two flanges to get it in balance.



The flywheel was balanced then indexed with the clutch to put together so they'd be balanced together.



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My Spin-On the way it was, when time to change oil.

Apples Oranges / The wrong end of the telescope / or this is not the world in which our flat heads grew up. Back then pennies mattered. We went to the bank on Friday to get our spending money for the week. Oil though, was cheap and canister filters were not too costly. The bigger deal was the labor of cleaning out the bucket. They also knew that a by-pass filter was a mere crutch. As full flow canister filters were introduced, we still wanted to avoid the labor and, sealing challenges. So in the name of saving pennies we still looked to changing every other time. Finally (too late for our precious flat heads though) they developed cartridge filters at three times the cost of a canister element. Counting pennies again led to skipping every other.

So here we are today trying to keep these jewels ticking along at five times their life expectancy. We drive in traffic that thinks it's NASCAR at speed limits a good 15 MPH above what any state highway allowed back when. Then there are the pennies, just swipe plastic on any corner. Pass out fives like they are dollars etc.

Okay Synthetic oil is long life but me personally if a quality filter is not available when I change (daily driver) my oil I'll dump that synthetic between 3 + 4 thousand, rather than run with clogged filter. To sum up I say, years ago as well as today, fresh filters and fresh oil (and MMO in the tank) are the cheapest way to keep any car young.

Sorry if I sound preachy it's just the way I was raised. In a grease pit with hot drain oil running down my arms every morning.
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good to see you're back on the road and humming along smoothly....neat motel.....where is it??....thanks....Mike
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Fillmore, Utah. Right across the street from the original capitol building for the Utah Territory.
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