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!!!RIOT!!! · 04-25-2020, 11:44 PM

I searched around and I can't find anything that lines up with what I'm seeing.

This is a '52 stock 8BA.

I recently had an issue where I would turn the key and get nothing from the starter. I have an electric fuel pump on a switch and it would come on but, turn the key, and no clicks or anything. Replaced the solenoid and ignition switch, still nothing. On a whim, I ran a new ignition wire and suddenly it jumped to life.

It started and ran great for several days until yesterday. I got in and accidentally tried to crank it while it was in first and it lurched, I cursed, and tried again. This time, it started to crank and then gave a few rapid clicks and shut down. Original issue was back. Turn the key and get nothing. Now, not even the electric pump would come on.

I tried to jump it by bypassing the solenoid and bridging the battery and starter and got nothing from the starter. At this point I thought the starter was fried so I pulled it and bench tested it. It immediately spun up like a champ. So I put it back in and called it a night thinking it was the battery.

I had been having problems with the battery so I picked up an Optima this morning, installed it and got the same rapid clicks and then nothing. Not even the pump. I turn the key and it's radio silence. I disconnected the battery, and reconnected, pump comes on, turned the key and got the clicks again and then nothing. I pulled the starter and battery again, and bench tested and it worked fine again. This time I put the battery back but not the starter, I turn the key and I get good solid clicks with the turn of the key like it's supposed to. I'm getting good voltage across the solenoid. I try the old solenoid I replaced and I get the same thing. I grab the starter and connect it with jumper cables and it spins so I pull the starter cable out and flip it around to where I can hold it in the engine compartment. Connect a jumper cable from battery ground to the starter body and have my wife turn the key. Rapid clicks and then nothing. Disconnect battery, disconnect starter, reconnect battery and good operation again. Made a new starter cable out of 1/0 and hooked the starter up... you guessed it... rapid clicks and then nothing.

So, no starter hooked up, solenoid seems fine. As soon as I connect the starter, rapid clicks and then nothing. It's almost like with the starter connected, the solenoid is locking up and doesn't release until I disconnect the battery again. Why would the starter work on the bench but not in the car?

I've grounded the hell out of this thing with 1/0 welding cable weeks ago from the block to the frame, frame to the bell housing so that sorta eliminates a bad ground, plus it does it with the starter hooked straight up to the battery.

I am at my wit's end here, guys. Anybody seen this before?

04-25-2020, 11:44 PM	#1
!!!RIOT!!! Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 10	Possible Starter Problem? I searched around and I can't find anything that lines up with what I'm seeing. This is a '52 stock 8BA. I recently had an issue where I would turn the key and get nothing from the starter. I have an electric fuel pump on a switch and it would come on but, turn the key, and no clicks or anything. Replaced the solenoid and ignition switch, still nothing. On a whim, I ran a new ignition wire and suddenly it jumped to life. It started and ran great for several days until yesterday. I got in and accidentally tried to crank it while it was in first and it lurched, I cursed, and tried again. This time, it started to crank and then gave a few rapid clicks and shut down. Original issue was back. Turn the key and get nothing. Now, not even the electric pump would come on. I tried to jump it by bypassing the solenoid and bridging the battery and starter and got nothing from the starter. At this point I thought the starter was fried so I pulled it and bench tested it. It immediately spun up like a champ. So I put it back in and called it a night thinking it was the battery. I had been having problems with the battery so I picked up an Optima this morning, installed it and got the same rapid clicks and then nothing. Not even the pump. I turn the key and it's radio silence. I disconnected the battery, and reconnected, pump comes on, turned the key and got the clicks again and then nothing. I pulled the starter and battery again, and bench tested and it worked fine again. This time I put the battery back but not the starter, I turn the key and I get good solid clicks with the turn of the key like it's supposed to. I'm getting good voltage across the solenoid. I try the old solenoid I replaced and I get the same thing. I grab the starter and connect it with jumper cables and it spins so I pull the starter cable out and flip it around to where I can hold it in the engine compartment. Connect a jumper cable from battery ground to the starter body and have my wife turn the key. Rapid clicks and then nothing. Disconnect battery, disconnect starter, reconnect battery and good operation again. Made a new starter cable out of 1/0 and hooked the starter up... you guessed it... rapid clicks and then nothing. So, no starter hooked up, solenoid seems fine. As soon as I connect the starter, rapid clicks and then nothing. It's almost like with the starter connected, the solenoid is locking up and doesn't release until I disconnect the battery again. Why would the starter work on the bench but not in the car? I've grounded the hell out of this thing with 1/0 welding cable weeks ago from the block to the frame, frame to the bell housing so that sorta eliminates a bad ground, plus it does it with the starter hooked straight up to the battery. I am at my wit's end here, guys. Anybody seen this before?