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Martinbuilt · 06-03-2023, 08:50 AM

Hi.
I'm trying to repair my cowl ('29) with parts from another.
Is it possible to get rivets to re-attach the subrail extensions, and connect the sides to the firewall?
I have catalogs for snyders and mikes, and only frame rivets are listed. What about these smaller sizes?

Oldbluoval · 06-03-2023, 08:56 AM

JayCee Rivets. But you so have to buy a box…usually 100.
Have to know your sizes and type head.

rotorwrench · 06-03-2023, 09:00 AM

Those are likely 3/16" brazier head types. Most of the subframe parts were joined with those on the steel framed car bodies. 3/16" round heads are also available from model A sources. Ford used steel rivets for body and frame. I usually buy the longest size and then cut them down for shorter applications

Martinbuilt · 06-03-2023, 09:23 AM

Thanks

oldspert · 06-03-2023, 09:40 AM

Try McMaster-Carr. They are a great source for hardware of all types and sizes.

Stew Masche · 06-03-2023, 11:32 AM

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I have bought rivets from the outfit listed below.
They have a large assortment of rivets, tools, and supplies. A good company to work with.
I think they sell by the pound.
Hanson Rivet & Supply Co.
13241 Weidner Street
Pacoima, CA. 91331

800-777-4838

www.hansonrivet.com

rotorwrench · 06-03-2023, 04:09 PM

Big Flats Rivet used to be the go to source for antique Ford rivet types but they closed shop last January and retired.

Hanson is a larger scale outfit so a person has to know what they are looking for with them. The brazier head rivets can also be referred to as oval head or truss head types so be aware. Most of the early Ford parts sources stock rivets for model As. They also have some tooling. ATS is an aircraft tool source but a lot of what they have is geared toward aircraft work and can get expensive. I bought that stuff a long time ago when it was a lot less expensive. They have good prices on Cleco fasteners and clamps. I use them for a lot of different purposes. Working sheet metal is one. I use the little clamps to hold headliners to the pinch welds when installing them. They make shop life a little easier.

bobbader · 06-03-2023, 07:06 PM

Brattons has them. Brattons.com. search "Rivets" and scroll down.

Martinbuilt · 06-03-2023, 08:37 PM

Thanks for all the leads. Should be set, no matter what i take apart.

Hans hendrik · 06-04-2023, 01:34 PM

keep in mind you need a lot of heat and of course the tools on both sides of the rivet

06-03-2023, 08:50 AM	#1
Martinbuilt Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Near Pittsburgh Posts: 77	Rivet source Hi. I'm trying to repair my cowl ('29) with parts from another. Is it possible to get rivets to re-attach the subrail extensions, and connect the sides to the firewall? I have catalogs for snyders and mikes, and only frame rivets are listed. What about these smaller sizes?

06-03-2023, 08:56 AM	#2
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,370	Re: Rivet source JayCee Rivets. But you so have to buy a box…usually 100. Have to know your sizes and type head.

06-03-2023, 09:00 AM	#3
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: Rivet source Those are likely 3/16" brazier head types. Most of the subframe parts were joined with those on the steel framed car bodies. 3/16" round heads are also available from model A sources. Ford used steel rivets for body and frame. I usually buy the longest size and then cut them down for shorter applications Last edited by rotorwrench; 06-03-2023 at 09:21 AM.

06-03-2023, 09:23 AM	#4
Martinbuilt Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Near Pittsburgh Posts: 77	Re: Rivet source Thanks

06-03-2023, 09:40 AM	#5
oldspert Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 225	Re: Rivet source Try McMaster-Carr. They are a great source for hardware of all types and sizes.

06-03-2023, 11:32 AM	#6
Stew Masche Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lake Mills, WI Posts: 251	Re: Rivet source Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have bought rivets from the outfit listed below. They have a large assortment of rivets, tools, and supplies. A good company to work with. I think they sell by the pound. Hanson Rivet & Supply Co. 13241 Weidner Street Pacoima, CA. 91331 800-777-4838 www.hansonrivet.com __________________ Always one bad decision away from a good time.

06-03-2023, 04:09 PM	#7
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: Rivet source Big Flats Rivet used to be the go to source for antique Ford rivet types but they closed shop last January and retired. Hanson is a larger scale outfit so a person has to know what they are looking for with them. The brazier head rivets can also be referred to as oval head or truss head types so be aware. Most of the early Ford parts sources stock rivets for model As. They also have some tooling. ATS is an aircraft tool source but a lot of what they have is geared toward aircraft work and can get expensive. I bought that stuff a long time ago when it was a lot less expensive. They have good prices on Cleco fasteners and clamps. I use them for a lot of different purposes. Working sheet metal is one. I use the little clamps to hold headliners to the pinch welds when installing them. They make shop life a little easier.

06-03-2023, 07:06 PM	#8
bobbader Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 271	Re: Rivet source Brattons has them. Brattons.com. search "Rivets" and scroll down.

06-03-2023, 08:37 PM	#9
Martinbuilt Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Near Pittsburgh Posts: 77	Re: Rivet source Thanks for all the leads. Should be set, no matter what i take apart.

06-04-2023, 01:34 PM	#10
Hans hendrik Junior Member Join Date: May 2023 Location: Nederland Posts: 15	Re: Rivet source keep in mind you need a lot of heat and of course the tools on both sides of the rivet