Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Early V8 (1932-53)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-04-2021, 04:40 PM   #61
bmwillia
Senior Member
 
bmwillia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Gonzales, LA
Posts: 457
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

Took a vacuum measurement. The gauge says its in the "Late Timing" range. How do I fix that?

Here is a video:

https://youtu.be/XcotyoNPuxI

Thanks!
__________________
Brad Williamson
bmwillia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2021, 07:46 PM   #62
petehoovie
Senior Member
 
petehoovie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 7,933
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

__________________
The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others....

"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"
"We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0
petehoovie is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 05-05-2021, 04:17 PM   #63
Terry,OH
Senior Member
 
Terry,OH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,729
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

Your engine seems to have a lot of valve lifter noise. IMO I would have Charlie Schwindler check out the fuel pump and get the pressure down and not install a pressure regulator. NAPA sells fuel filters for the glass bowl pump. Ask Charlie to install one. Remove the Carb input valve and clean. Then see if the Carb idle adj screws work and adjust the engine vacuum to the highest and most steady reading. Make sure you change the engine oil. A photo of the engine bay would be nice. You don't seem to have a vacuum leak which would result in a lean fuel mixture. You could remove the Carb top and see how much dirt is in the float bowl. If having the fuel pressure and the Carb input valve clean does not allow the idle mixture screws to adjust correctly then return the Carb to Max after calling him.
Terry,OH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2021, 09:25 PM   #64
bmwillia
Senior Member
 
bmwillia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Gonzales, LA
Posts: 457
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

Thanks for the advice Terry! I really appreciate it!
__________________
Brad Williamson

Last edited by bmwillia; 05-05-2021 at 09:33 PM.
bmwillia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2021, 09:53 PM   #65
Tinker
Senior Member
 
Tinker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 7,053
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

Another vacuum chart attached. When you get down to fine tuning best to do one change at a time then regroup. When you get there. New motor to you, it can be a lot of different things compounded. Understand why is important.

Vacuum is low, but that could be as described above.... What kind of cylinder compression are you getting. Keep at it!!!


I believe Charlie is a bit backlogged due to personal life issues. But I believe he also works on 97s. If you are sending him your fuel pump, maybe 2 birds as they say.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg vacuum readings.jpg (63.0 KB, 61 views)

Last edited by Tinker; 05-05-2021 at 11:33 PM.
Tinker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2021, 11:26 AM   #66
bmwillia
Senior Member
 
bmwillia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Gonzales, LA
Posts: 457
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Is it better to check compression with the engine warm or does it matter?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Brad Williamson
bmwillia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2021, 04:16 PM   #67
Phil Gillespie
Senior Member
 
Phil Gillespie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Christchurch New Zealand
Posts: 1,603
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

[QUOTE=bmwillia;2014090]Is it better to check compression with the engine warm or does it matter?

Normally checked when warm, ie around running temp. Then if low a bit of oil down the bore and a rechecked to rule out rings perhaps.
Phil NZ
Phil Gillespie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2021, 12:53 PM   #68
bmwillia
Senior Member
 
bmwillia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Gonzales, LA
Posts: 457
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

Update:

I sent my fuel pump and carb off to Charlie and have received it back. He found a few issues with the carb and lowered the pump pressure from a little over 3lbs to 2.5lbs.

I have not had a chance to try them out yet because why they were away, I did a compression test on each cylinder and got a consistent 80lbs on every cylinder but #8, it was at 30lbs.

I pulled the intake and head on that side and it appears that the intake valve is not closing all the way. There was some carbon build up around the valve seat from it running rich. I have cleaned it and the valve is still not fully seating. Any ideas?




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Brad Williamson
bmwillia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2021, 01:50 PM   #69
bmwillia
Senior Member
 
bmwillia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Gonzales, LA
Posts: 457
Default Re: Flathead Running rich(UPDATE)

Hey guys, I wanted to post a quick update on the running rich issues I have been chasing down.

I believe my issue is resolved. Here is what I have done since my last post.

I changed the bent exhaust valve on cylinder #8 and put everything back together with my fuel pump at 2.5 lbs and the issues Charlie found with my carb straightened out.

I was still having backfiring issues on deceleration between gears so I turned my attention to the ignition system. All of the plug wires checked out good so I pulled the distributor and sent it off to Skip to have him go through it. Got it back last week and installed it this morning. My car has never run better!!! No more backfiring on deceleration and plenty of power while driving.

The car used to bog down when I floored the accelerator in 1st gear, now I have good power all the way though all of my gears.

A big thank you to all of you who helped me through this problem!!
__________________
Brad Williamson
bmwillia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2021, 03:20 PM   #70
AKCJ
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Posts: 92
Default Re: Flathead Running rich

Great to hear you’re running well. It’s gotta be a good feeling.
AKCJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:39 AM.