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Fairlane500 · 04-07-2012, 07:58 PM

I have another C69A and stripped it to assess its condition when I met this crack. I am a relative new comer to these things, So is this something repairable or is she garden art ???? Please let me down gently it will be like a death in the family if shes goneburger...

Cecil/WV · 04-07-2012, 08:03 PM

Find the right machinist and it can be laced.

Karl Wolf · 04-07-2012, 10:30 PM

Or welded, but make sure you get a guy who knows what he's doing...
Karl

Fairlane500 · 04-08-2012, 02:30 AM

Can someone explain laced to me???

Thanks

Ken/Alabama · 04-08-2012, 02:47 AM

The way I have seen it done was to find the end of the crack and drill it then install a threaded iron plug that's tapered. Then drill another hole overlapping the first plug, keep repeating this process the length of the crack. I bet your block can be saved by this method and installing a sleeve in that cylinder and a new seat. I would pull the valve and guide out to see if the crack runs down into the guide hole, it might just be under the seat which would be a good thing. The further it goes in the guide hole it makes it harder to repair.

Jay Ess · 04-08-2012, 06:51 AM

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KiWinUS · 04-08-2012, 07:20 AM

Ken has it exactly correct , I have fixed several cracked the same as yours . If it has a valve seat remove it first the crack s usually go down into the port also just pin it from one end of crack to the other , cut & install new seat , then bore & install sleeve in cylinder. Been away too long , so not sure who in CHCH will do this for you , but Blacklows in Ashburton can handle it . The drilling & pining is really easy to do , its like a pipe thread & as the plugs get tight enough they break off & then you drill the next hole intersecting the last plug.
Cheers
Tony

Frank Miller · 04-08-2012, 07:31 AM

This pinning is ok but not a true stitch. The tapered plugs can spread the crack. Usually locks are put in every so often to keep the crack from opening.
Look in the third picture to see what I am referring to. This was most likely done by Frank Casey of Millbury Ma. He has all kinds of drills and tooling to get into places no one thought possible. Makes his own pins and locks. One man operation out of his cellar. Pressure tests all repairs.
http://www.jandm-machine.com/metalStitching.html

Kurt in NJ · 04-08-2012, 08:44 AM

There are different pins, some are tapered.. some have straight threads, some have hooked threads and pull the crack together ---then there are locks ---
http://www.locknstitch.com/ --this site has some good information so you can have some knowledge in your search for a proper repair.

Mike in AZ · 04-08-2012, 01:19 PM

Fairlane, i think "laced" is meant the same as "stitched", as discussed.....good luck....doesn't look too bad, and i hope it can be repaired....Mike

Ol' Ron · 04-09-2012, 09:32 AM

If done right there is no need to sleeve the bolck. Have had several done by Frank Casey of mass. Depending on how far down the cylinder the crack goes.

04-07-2012, 08:03 PM	#2
Cecil/WV Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gerrardstown, WV Posts: 2,266	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? Find the right machinist and it can be laced.

04-07-2012, 10:30 PM	#3
Karl Wolf Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mill Valley,Ca. Posts: 1,509	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? Or welded, but make sure you get a guy who knows what he's doing... Karl

04-08-2012, 02:30 AM	#4
Fairlane500 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posts: 250	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? Can someone explain laced to me??? Thanks __________________ Life is not a dress rehearsal...

04-08-2012, 02:47 AM	#5
Ken/Alabama Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,260	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? The way I have seen it done was to find the end of the crack and drill it then install a threaded iron plug that's tapered. Then drill another hole overlapping the first plug, keep repeating this process the length of the crack. I bet your block can be saved by this method and installing a sleeve in that cylinder and a new seat. I would pull the valve and guide out to see if the crack runs down into the guide hole, it might just be under the seat which would be a good thing. The further it goes in the guide hole it makes it harder to repair.

04-08-2012, 06:51 AM	#6
Jay Ess Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: L.I. N.Y. Posts: 83	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/t...air/index.html __________________ *Old School Aficionado...* H.A.M.B. Alliance Member

04-08-2012, 07:20 AM	#7
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,960	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? Ken has it exactly correct , I have fixed several cracked the same as yours . If it has a valve seat remove it first the crack s usually go down into the port also just pin it from one end of crack to the other , cut & install new seat , then bore & install sleeve in cylinder. Been away too long , so not sure who in CHCH will do this for you , but Blacklows in Ashburton can handle it . The drilling & pining is really easy to do , its like a pipe thread & as the plugs get tight enough they break off & then you drill the next hole intersecting the last plug. Cheers Tony

04-08-2012, 07:31 AM	#8
Frank Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn, MA Posts: 2,106	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? This pinning is ok but not a true stitch. The tapered plugs can spread the crack. Usually locks are put in every so often to keep the crack from opening. Look in the third picture to see what I am referring to. This was most likely done by Frank Casey of Millbury Ma. He has all kinds of drills and tooling to get into places no one thought possible. Makes his own pins and locks. One man operation out of his cellar. Pressure tests all repairs. http://www.jandm-machine.com/metalStitching.html __________________ “The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is true.” ~ Ezra Pound

04-08-2012, 08:44 AM	#9
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? There are different pins, some are tapered.. some have straight threads, some have hooked threads and pull the crack together ---then there are locks --- http://www.locknstitch.com/ --this site has some good information so you can have some knowledge in your search for a proper repair.

04-08-2012, 01:19 PM	#10
Mike in AZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Waddell, AZ Posts: 2,540	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? Fairlane, i think "laced" is meant the same as "stitched", as discussed.....good luck....doesn't look too bad, and i hope it can be repaired....Mike

04-09-2012, 09:32 AM	#11
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: Repairable or Garden Art ???? If done right there is no need to sleeve the bolck. Have had several done by Frank Casey of mass. Depending on how far down the cylinder the crack goes.