Newbe From New Zealand

[Fairlane500]

Not sure if the intro thing is as common here as the Hamb but anyway, My name is John and I'm a Ford-o-holic, I have a 36 Ford and a 57 Ford with Flathead and Y block power plants, I use the same handle on the Hamb and came to the Ford Barn to seek knowledge for my first flathead rebuild. Seems theres a wealth of knowledge here and I recognize a few from the Y Blocks forever site also.(great guys over there)

So I picked up a real nice bare 69A block, crank and a set of 8BA rods and pistons, a set of alloy Canadian C7RA heads, then I purchased a Isky Max 1 8BA cam to run a 8BA distributor and a new set of hollow adjustables, an 8BA valve train all from Red's, a pair of new truck 8BA water pumps, HV oil pump, best gasket kit, and a new Stromberg 97 locally, So I still have a few items to collect to get a complete engine as this thing was all just parts, but its off to the machine shop next week to get bored, valves etc and I should get her back as a short block. In the meantime I need to find a oil pan, flywheel, intake etc locally whilst the machine work is being done, cant wait to get it in the 36. She currently has a Ford Pilot 21 stud V8 and the only thing it passes is oil past the rings, been a good soldier all the same.

Keep you posted.

[Jack E/NJ]

Welcome, John! While you're waiting for the block and parts, what about re-doing the 21 studder? 8^)

Jack E/NJ

[ken ct]

John,welcome to the barn. Your 97 will not work with a 8BA dizzy,[no vacume connection] You must use a 8BA # ford-holley.You cannot use manifold vacume either. You must use the port on the rear of the 8BA carb. ken ct usa

[Fairlane500]

Thanks Ken, I havent sorted a distributor yet and have not ruled out any options, I see a few here and the HAMB running Bubbas Chev modification (contact or petronix), MSD or Mallory unilite, Not sure which direction I will go yet!!! See what other info turns up here. Regards

[Mart]

Hi.
Welcome to the Barn. (From a relative newcomer)
As you're mixing and matching parts, you could (if you are stuck) use the sump, flywheel and starter off your 21stud. You need to keep them together as a matched set, as the starter and ring gear teeth are different, and the mounting of the starter to the sump is different.
But as a set, they would fit your 59A block and crank.

Mart.

[Fairlane500]

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Thanks Mart,

As a last resort I would do that, this 21 stud I have has a 11 inch clutch and flywheel pattern only, I want to run a 9 inch set up as this 21 stud is lazy as with the 11 inch, I would also like to keep using the car till the engines done,, and I would like to run it up and get confident with tune etc before installing. Good info though thanks, regards.

[Walt Dupont--Me.]

Fairlane500. Make sure the machine shop that is building your short block puts the main line oil plug in behind the cam gear. Alot of people leave that out and no oil pressure. There is also one in the rear of the block. You really don't need a HV oil pump in a street engine with stock oil clearances. To much oil pressure is not good. A standard M-19 oil pump with a truck pickup tube will work fine in your 59 engine. Walt

[Fairlane500]

Thanks for the advice Walt appreciated. Regards.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Welcome to the new Fordbarn. It's always nice to have newbies to help. Listen to the engine gurus who post here for some good advice. One thing I thought about when you mention running an 8BA distributor is that you must also use an 8ba timing gear and crank gear to get correct rotation. You probably already knew this but thought I would mention anyway. Also, don't forget that that little 21 studder can be built up to run with the bigger dogs as well. Good luck!

[Craig CT]

Hi Fairlane500; I wouldn't run a high volume oil pump for the engine you're building. Good luck, and welcome, Craig.

[Fairlane500]

Thanks for the feedback and comments guys appreciate it, with the HV oil pump what is the main concerns there??? Delaminating bearings from too higher oil pressure???? I was of the understanding that HV oil pumps were quite commonly used???? is this not the case????, please I appreciate everyones comments as I learn here. I believe the pump pictured below I purchased from So-Cal Speed Shop is the same as what is used on the French Flatheads. Regards

[danliveshere]

I too am interested to learn about the high volume pump as I bought one for my 35 block. What's the issues regarding this as I require a long term reliable motor as the car is being built as a wedding car.

[Fairlane500]

Walt, Question for you what is this pump i have bought called a M?? Will it be o.k.? Is it even a HV pump??? Appreciate any info from anyone on this pump pictured above, Regards

[swoopNZ]

Try Horopito for a sump.
They still have plenty of flatheads lying around.
Chris.NZ.
06 755 0818

[Craig CT]

Originally Posted by Fairlane500

Walt, Question for you what is this pump i have bought called a M?? Will it be o.k.? Is it even a HV pump??? Appreciate any info from anyone on this pump pictured above, Regards

Hi Fairlane500; I believe Melling M 19 is the later 8BA 60lb pump, Craig.

[52merc]

good to see another kiwi spreading there wings trev

[Fairlane500]

Originally Posted by swoopNZ

Try Horopito for a sump.
They still have plenty of flatheads lying around.
Chris.NZ.
06 755 0818

Thanks and I will tomorrow. Cheers

[52merc]

what part of nz are you in ?? spyder caps are available in usa

[kiwitony]

I have a flywheel and pressure plate[new] if you want it.Pm me.Cheers Tony.May also have an intake,need to check my stash.

[Fairlane500]

Picked up a cast steel intake and a unknown flywheel today for the project, are the 9" and 10" clutches the same mounting bolt pattern???? I would like to run a 10" Clutch???

I drug the block out today from under the bench and it is actually a C69A block not a C59A as I thought, which I think is better??? More cylinder wall meat is this correct???