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Timberview · 07-01-2022, 11:32 AM

I started to work on the family Model A that has been sitting in the garage for 15-20 years. I tried to turn the motor by hand with it in neutral, starter off, spark plugs off but no luck. When I dropped the pan, the motor looks SUPER clean. I don’t know what would be most likely reason for it not turning.

Gary WA · 07-01-2022, 11:40 AM

Put in gear and try rocking forward? or reverse?

Timberview · 07-01-2022, 12:20 PM

That was going to be my next step. Right after posting, I went out on my lunch break pried on the flywheel and saw a little movement from the fan! It’s still a bit hard to turn by hand, but I think sitting with MMO for another 24 hours will make it a little easier.

Anyone else ever asked for help, only to try to reproduce the problem with Help watching and everything works? I feel like that was me just now!

Patrick L. · 07-01-2022, 12:39 PM

Let it sit with the MMO in the cylinders for as long as you can. The rings are probably 'stuck' to the walls and pistons.

Smokedtires · 07-01-2022, 02:04 PM

With the spark plugs out, try squirting oil in the cylinders.

This is a video worth watching:
https://youtu.be/wGY0t4Qu-iM

Patrick L. · 07-01-2022, 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokedtires

With the spark plugs out, try squirting oil in the cylinders.

This is a video worth watching:
https://youtu.be/wGY0t4Qu-iM

Hasn't that already been done ? The MMO has been in for awhile.

J Franklin · 07-01-2022, 04:06 PM

Remove the distributor and put some MMO or light oil down the hole there, it will get to the bearings.

KR500 · 07-01-2022, 04:48 PM

I agree with J Franklin, REMOVE the distributor. An upper frozen bushing will prevent you from turning over engine.

Smokedtires · 07-01-2022, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick L.

Hasn't that already been done ? The MMO has been in for awhile.

Just trying to help.

nkaminar · 07-01-2022, 08:23 PM

Most likely Patrick is right (post # 4), the rings and pistons are stuck. Use a bore scope or a strong light to inspect the cylinder walls for rust. If there is rust your best bet is to take the engine apart. Start with removing the head.

Gary WA · 07-02-2022, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timberview

I started to work on the family Model A that has been sitting in the garage for 15-20 years. I tried to turn the motor by hand with it in neutral, starter off, spark plugs off but no luck. When I dropped the pan, the motor looks SUPER clean. I don’t know what would be most likely reason for it not turning.

Did you fix your problem??

07-01-2022, 11:32 AM	#1
Timberview Junior Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 9	Engine not turning, looks clean I started to work on the family Model A that has been sitting in the garage for 15-20 years. I tried to turn the motor by hand with it in neutral, starter off, spark plugs off but no luck. When I dropped the pan, the motor looks SUPER clean. I don’t know what would be most likely reason for it not turning.

07-01-2022, 11:40 AM	#2
Gary WA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Clinton,WA/Whidbey Island Posts: 4,101	Re: Engine not turning, looks clean Put in gear and try rocking forward? or reverse? __________________ www.whidbeymodelaclub.com

07-01-2022, 12:20 PM	#3
Timberview Junior Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 9	Re: Engine not turning, looks clean That was going to be my next step. Right after posting, I went out on my lunch break pried on the flywheel and saw a little movement from the fan! It’s still a bit hard to turn by hand, but I think sitting with MMO for another 24 hours will make it a little easier. Anyone else ever asked for help, only to try to reproduce the problem with Help watching and everything works? I feel like that was me just now!

07-01-2022, 12:39 PM	#4
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Engine not turning, looks clean Let it sit with the MMO in the cylinders for as long as you can. The rings are probably 'stuck' to the walls and pistons.

07-01-2022, 02:04 PM	#5
Smokedtires Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Baldwinsville NY Posts: 174	Re: Engine not turning, looks clean With the spark plugs out, try squirting oil in the cylinders. This is a video worth watching: https://youtu.be/wGY0t4Qu-iM

07-01-2022, 04:06 PM	#7
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,959	Re: Engine not turning, looks clean Remove the distributor and put some MMO or light oil down the hole there, it will get to the bearings.

07-01-2022, 04:48 PM	#8
KR500 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Addison,ll. Posts: 453	Re: Engine not turning, looks clean I agree with J Franklin, REMOVE the distributor. An upper frozen bushing will prevent you from turning over engine.

07-01-2022, 08:23 PM	#10
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,899	Re: Engine not turning, looks clean Most likely Patrick is right (post # 4), the rings and pistons are stuck. Use a bore scope or a strong light to inspect the cylinder walls for rust. If there is rust your best bet is to take the engine apart. Start with removing the head. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.