The Ford Barn

Kube · 07-26-2017, 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=V8COOPMAN;1504775]'dawg......Whew, those pics show a lot of scary stuff. The type of wiring "expertise" shown in the under-dash shot indicates a rat's nest of electrical problems, if not a warning to have the local fire department number on speed-dial! The "ad-on" open-drive rear end "hack-job" leaves an awful lot to be desired. You'd have to ask "WHY" he replaced the original rear in the first place. The torched rear spring ends certainly indicates the level of understanding that the builder has about "safe practices". The half-assed radius rods are trash, along with the awful geometry designed into his "installation". The front spring is almost flat, and surely worn-out, as the rest of the front axle parts likely are, too. UNDERNEATH that truck is a total waste. From 50 feet, the sheet metal appears to be pretty close to a '41 pick-up, but have you run a magnet across all of that "pretty, painted" sheet metal? You may be in for some surprises. Snazzy paint jobs can cover many sins. And that fancy seat installation.......Heaven help ya if you ever crash into something solid....that seat is POORLY mounted! I would pass on THAT truck for any kind of serious money, and especially if you don't intend to tear it apart and rebuilt EVERYTHING from scratch. Seriously, you've gotta wonder WHY the guy has that truck for sale in the first place. He was obviously way over his head as a builder. DD

That seat installation reminds me of those threads where some really crazy stuff going on.
My gosh, some guys should gently put down the wrench and walk away from the work bench - for good.

Jeff/Illinois · 07-26-2017, 06:00 PM

oldskool... is that a fan mounted to the left of the steering column?? Looks like it could be a gender trans-former ouch

JSeery · 07-26-2017, 06:16 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't be very concerned about items like wiring or seats. Both can be removed and replace in short order. I would be much more concerned about the condition of the body, frame, etc. Bolt on items are not that big a deal to me, but they would have an impact on the pricing.

Milt K from Pa · 07-26-2017, 06:17 PM

Oldskool,
Not too original on the black '40 : rear should be all steel on the, floor-one piece. Not supposed to have any padding on doors or kick panels, just painted steel in truck color, dash instruments are after-market. This is kind of a resto-mod vehicle. Enjoy it.

Milt K from Pa

Capsacto · 07-26-2017, 06:17 PM

That fan looks like a boat prop!

TJ · 07-26-2017, 07:15 PM

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If the suspension and underside look that bad and the wiring is a "rat's nest" I suspect the rest of the truck is probably full of bondo that's covering a multitude of bad body issues. The frame in the rear corners could also have serious issues. If you want a nice driver pickup pass on this pickup. It's a total project that will be a serious "money pit" and take a lot of years of your life before you can actually drive it. Keep looking for something better, they are out there.

oldskool · 07-26-2017, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milt K from Pa

Oldskool,
Not too original on the black '40 : rear should be all steel on the, floor-one piece. Not supposed to have any padding on doors or kick panels, just painted steel in truck color, dash instruments are after-market. This is kind of a resto-mod vehicle. Enjoy it.

Milt K from Pa

you misunderstood never said the truck was all original only said it was all original henry steel ,I like all the upgrades and im the one who counts

47 flatbed · 07-26-2017, 08:25 PM

Interesting truck needs work I would snag it if price was right for what's there.

Kube · 07-26-2017, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldskool

you misunderstood never said the truck was all original only said it was all original henry steel ,I like all the upgrades and im the one who counts

Yep, it is yours and you should enjoy it. However, um, it ain't all original Henry steel. A wood bed? What happened to the original Henry Steel bed?
Unless you meant what remains is Henry steel???

bigdawg · 07-26-2017, 09:44 PM

Alright 47flatbed..It's time to put you on the spot. What would be the right price?

47 flatbed · 07-26-2017, 10:36 PM

I would buy for 5k or less. Probably 8500 is market? I bought my 47 7 years ago for 2800. Bought a 3/4 ton 39 for 2600 4 years ago. If these trucks have gone up that much it's time to buy more.

bigdawg · 07-28-2017, 08:29 AM

I just want to take a moment and thank everyone who shared their insight, knowledge and opinions about this truck. It was very much appreciated.

I don't believe a deal can be reached at this time. We are just too far apart on price. But the search continues.

Jeff/Illinois · 07-28-2017, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg

I just want to take a moment and thank everyone who shared they're insight, knowledge and opinions about this truck. It was very much appreciated.

I don't believe a deal can be reached at this time. We are just too far apart on price. But the search continues.

You'll find a good truck at the right price.

You're doing the smart thing right now: waiting and looking. It will happen

47 flatbed · 07-30-2017, 09:53 PM

What was he asking for the truck?

bigdawg · 07-31-2017, 01:32 PM

15k

V8COOPMAN · 07-31-2017, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg

15k

Yikes, that's way TOO much money for THAT truck. Below is something like you should get excited about. Click the link below! DD

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225782

bigdawg · 07-31-2017, 01:54 PM

V8coopman, that is very nice.. Can you give us lay persons some idea what that should cost?

V8COOPMAN · 07-31-2017, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg

V8coopman, that is very nice.. Can you give us lay persons some idea what that should cost?

buzz4041 MAY want to share the price.........or not! As you know, the final price is whatever you negotiate. The point here is that you should feel good that you did not succumb to that other over-priced truck. You had patience, and your continued patience and scrutiny will pay-off in the future, as REALLY nice examples are STILL out there. DD

TJ · 07-31-2017, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg

15k

15K is about $7500 too much for that truck. It's a project no meatter how you look at it. Keep looking. As others have said be patient and the right truck at the right price will come along. I looked at my truck 3 years prior to buying it and the seller changed his mind about selling. Later he decided sell and I was in the right place at the right time.

Jeff/Illinois · 08-01-2017, 01:09 PM

Saw a glimpse of American Pickers last nite, never watch the show anymore but was changing channels and saw a '39 Ford pickup so paused to watch.

Looked like a decent mostly original truck. They 'bartered' with the owner (of course it's all staged prices set ahead of time) and 'bought' it for $5500. I thought that was a fair price for the condition it was in. They claimed with some work and getting it driveable they could sell it for $13K. Probably not too out of line.

Looked like a nice '39 Ford pickup if you are into that barrel grille

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07-26-2017, 04:35 PM	#21
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 8,990	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup [QUOTE=V8COOPMAN;1504775]'dawg......Whew, those pics show a lot of scary stuff. The type of wiring "expertise" shown in the under-dash shot indicates a rat's nest of electrical problems, if not a warning to have the local fire department number on speed-dial! The "ad-on" open-drive rear end "hack-job" leaves an awful lot to be desired. You'd have to ask "WHY" he replaced the original rear in the first place. The torched rear spring ends certainly indicates the level of understanding that the builder has about "safe practices". The half-assed radius rods are trash, along with the awful geometry designed into his "installation". The front spring is almost flat, and surely worn-out, as the rest of the front axle parts likely are, too. UNDERNEATH that truck is a total waste. From 50 feet, the sheet metal appears to be pretty close to a '41 pick-up, but have you run a magnet across all of that "pretty, painted" sheet metal? You may be in for some surprises. Snazzy paint jobs can cover many sins. And that fancy seat installation.......Heaven help ya if you ever crash into something solid....that seat is POORLY mounted! I would pass on THAT truck for any kind of serious money, and especially if you don't intend to tear it apart and rebuilt EVERYTHING from scratch. Seriously, you've gotta wonder WHY the guy has that truck for sale in the first place. He was obviously way over his head as a builder. DD That seat installation reminds me of those threads where some really crazy stuff going on. My gosh, some guys should gently put down the wrench and walk away from the work bench - for good. __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

07-26-2017, 06:00 PM	#22
Jeff/Illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,789	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup oldskool... is that a fan mounted to the left of the steering column?? Looks like it could be a gender trans-former ouch

07-26-2017, 06:16 PM	#23
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't be very concerned about items like wiring or seats. Both can be removed and replace in short order. I would be much more concerned about the condition of the body, frame, etc. Bolt on items are not that big a deal to me, but they would have an impact on the pricing. Last edited by JSeery; 07-26-2017 at 07:34 PM.

07-26-2017, 06:17 PM	#24
Milt K from Pa Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa. Area Posts: 272	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Oldskool, Not too original on the black '40 : rear should be all steel on the, floor-one piece. Not supposed to have any padding on doors or kick panels, just painted steel in truck color, dash instruments are after-market. This is kind of a resto-mod vehicle. Enjoy it. Milt K from Pa

07-26-2017, 06:17 PM	#25
Capsacto Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: NorCal Posts: 68	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup That fan looks like a boat prop! __________________ Ed "I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." - Thomas Jefferson

07-26-2017, 07:15 PM	#26
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,029	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) If the suspension and underside look that bad and the wiring is a "rat's nest" I suspect the rest of the truck is probably full of bondo that's covering a multitude of bad body issues. The frame in the rear corners could also have serious issues. If you want a nice driver pickup pass on this pickup. It's a total project that will be a serious "money pit" and take a lot of years of your life before you can actually drive it. Keep looking for something better, they are out there.

07-26-2017, 08:25 PM	#28
47 flatbed Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 419	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Interesting truck needs work I would snag it if price was right for what's there.

07-26-2017, 09:44 PM	#30
bigdawg Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 7	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Alright 47flatbed..It's time to put you on the spot. What would be the right price?

07-26-2017, 10:36 PM	#31
47 flatbed Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 419	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup I would buy for 5k or less. Probably 8500 is market? I bought my 47 7 years ago for 2800. Bought a 3/4 ton 39 for 2600 4 years ago. If these trucks have gone up that much it's time to buy more.

07-28-2017, 08:29 AM	#32
bigdawg Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 7	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup I just want to take a moment and thank everyone who shared their insight, knowledge and opinions about this truck. It was very much appreciated. I don't believe a deal can be reached at this time. We are just too far apart on price. But the search continues. Last edited by bigdawg; 07-28-2017 at 03:10 PM. Reason: stupid

07-30-2017, 09:53 PM	#34
47 flatbed Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 419	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup What was he asking for the truck?

07-31-2017, 01:32 PM	#35
bigdawg Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 7	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup 15k

07-31-2017, 01:54 PM	#37
bigdawg Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 7	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup V8coopman, that is very nice.. Can you give us lay persons some idea what that should cost?

08-01-2017, 01:09 PM	#40
Jeff/Illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,789	Re: NADA pricing accuracy? 41 pickup Saw a glimpse of American Pickers last nite, never watch the show anymore but was changing channels and saw a '39 Ford pickup so paused to watch. Looked like a decent mostly original truck. They 'bartered' with the owner (of course it's all staged prices set ahead of time) and 'bought' it for $5500. I thought that was a fair price for the condition it was in. They claimed with some work and getting it driveable they could sell it for $13K. Probably not too out of line. Looked like a nice '39 Ford pickup if you are into that barrel grille.