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Incognito-A · 11-13-2021, 03:36 AM

There was a small family owned company in the 1970’s that was making a 100% new Model A using sourced repro parts and fiberglass body parts. Of course the engines were rebuilt originals.

With the Burtz engines, I wonder if it’s possible to make a totally 100% New Model A?

nkaminar · 11-13-2021, 06:55 AM

I suppose that you could if you can make the frame and other parts that are not currently available new. But why? It would probably cost $80,000 or more to make a car that you could buy for $16,000.

jwmckenzie · 11-13-2021, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Incognito-A

... I wonder if it’s possible to make a totally 100% New Model A?

Not aware of any gas tanks being made to match the original.

McMimmcs · 11-13-2021, 07:14 AM

I think you are referring to the SHAY. not quite as you describe it. Please google Shay. Wayne

marty in Ohio · 11-13-2021, 07:44 AM

Wasn't there also a replica called a Glassic?
Marty

McMimmcs · 11-13-2021, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by marty in Ohio

Wasn't there also a replica called a Glassic?
Marty

Yes it was worse than the Shay!

Incognito-A · 11-13-2021, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nkaminar

I suppose that you could if you can make the frame and other parts that are not currently available new. But why? It would probably cost $80,000 or more to make a car that you could buy for $16,000.

Of course, this is purely a hypothetical, no one would actually do it!

John Dayhuff · 11-13-2021, 02:47 PM

Yes Shay, they were made right here in Battle Creek Michigan.

Y-Blockhead · 11-13-2021, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marty in Ohio

Wasn't there also a replica called a Glassic?
Marty

Yes, Glassic then Replicar?
www.replicars.org/
http://glassicannex.org/owners.htm#161

todd3131 · 11-13-2021, 04:21 PM

Yes there was a company that was building a reproduction model a in the late 70s early 80s they were sourcing some original parts as you said. I remember they had an original tank block and may cat parts but they used a lot of reproduction parts mainly. Yes it could be done now but as previously pointed out why?

d. · 11-13-2021, 06:21 PM

I believe the Glassic was based on an International truck running gear.
They looked pretty bad.

CarlG · 11-13-2021, 06:25 PM

John LaVoy built a Roadster Pickup using all reproduction parts. He wanted to put a Burtz engine in it, but it wasn't ready when he needed it, so he went with a rebuilt engine.

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 11-14-2021, 01:55 PM

There are WAY more parts no longer manufactured, -or never were manufactured that would make a total remanufactured Model-A impossible to do. Axle housings, differential housing and parts, torque tube and coupling components, radius rods (-both rears and front), front axle, brake cross-shaft, pedals, accelerator assy., steering gearbox, steering column, frame, actuator shaft housings, gas tank, transmission castings, etc. all makeup enough stuff that you cannot assemble a close representation or a clone of an authentic looking Model-A.

Ruth · 11-14-2021, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by d.

I believe the Glassic was based on an International truck running gear.
They looked pretty bad.

I disagree, I don't think they looked that bad. Most listed have a SBF/ C-4 engine/trans.

Dennis Pereira · 11-14-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruth

I disagree, I don't think they looked that bad. Most listed have a SBF/ C-4 engine/trans.

Makes a nice looking Hot Rod and saves a Model A .

Chris in WNC · 11-14-2021, 07:38 PM

Somewhere in my archives, I have a newspaper clipping {Tampa Tribune, early to mid-'70s} about an outfit (family?) in north central FL that was building "new" Model As by using a combination of repro parts and restored parts.

Sometime in my copious free time (ha-ha) I'll try to track that down and report back....

nkaminar · 11-14-2021, 08:10 PM

Brent, All that stuff could be manufactured with enough money. Maybe a few million. But why? If I was going to throw that much money at a car it would be a 1927 Bugatti, which has been done, by the way. Or some other high end car.

Incognito-A · 11-15-2021, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris in WNC

Somewhere in my archives, I have a newspaper clipping {Tampa Tribune, early to mid-'70s} about an outfit (family?) in north central FL that was building "new" Model As by using a combination of repro parts and restored parts.

Sometime in my copious free time (ha-ha) I'll try to track that down and report back....

Yes, I believe that’s what I was referring to in my original post. Was definitely not thinking of Shay.

Maybe I can find the article as well if it was saved.

Oldbluoval · 11-15-2021, 04:10 AM

Many classics are actually remanufactured cars. Often started with an original chassis and maybe a running gear. Then a complete new body and all else fabricated by talented craftsmen. I can name several specifically …..but won’t!

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 11-15-2021, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nkaminar

Brent, All that stuff could be manufactured with enough money. Maybe a few million. Buy why? If I was going to throw that much money at a car it would be a 1927 Bugatti, which has been done, by the way. Or some other high end car.

I agree!

11-13-2021, 06:55 AM	#2
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,899	Re: 100% Replica Model A I suppose that you could if you can make the frame and other parts that are not currently available new. But why? It would probably cost $80,000 or more to make a car that you could buy for $16,000. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

11-13-2021, 07:14 AM	#4
McMimmcs Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Gratiot, Michigan Posts: 2,296	Re: 100% Replica Model A I think you are referring to the SHAY. not quite as you describe it. Please google Shay. Wayne

11-13-2021, 07:44 AM	#5
marty in Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 755	Re: 100% Replica Model A Wasn't there also a replica called a Glassic? Marty

11-13-2021, 02:47 PM	#8
John Dayhuff Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan Posts: 164	Re: 100% Replica Model A Yes Shay, they were made right here in Battle Creek Michigan. __________________ John

11-13-2021, 04:21 PM	#10
todd3131 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: cedar rapids iowa Posts: 527	Re: 100% Replica Model A Yes there was a company that was building a reproduction model a in the late 70s early 80s they were sourcing some original parts as you said. I remember they had an original tank block and may cat parts but they used a lot of reproduction parts mainly. Yes it could be done now but as previously pointed out why?

11-13-2021, 03:36 AM	#1
Incognito-A Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Left Coast Posts: 211	100% Replica Model A There was a small family owned company in the 1970’s that was making a 100% new Model A using sourced repro parts and fiberglass body parts. Of course the engines were rebuilt originals. With the Burtz engines, I wonder if it’s possible to make a totally 100% New Model A?

11-13-2021, 06:21 PM	#11
d. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 510	Re: 100% Replica Model A I believe the Glassic was based on an International truck running gear. They looked pretty bad.

11-13-2021, 06:25 PM	#12
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: 100% Replica Model A John LaVoy built a Roadster Pickup using all reproduction parts. He wanted to put a Burtz engine in it, but it wasn't ready when he needed it, so he went with a rebuilt engine. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

11-14-2021, 01:55 PM	#13
BRENT in 10-uh-C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 11,508	Re: 100% Replica Model A There are WAY more parts no longer manufactured, -or never were manufactured that would make a total remanufactured Model-A impossible to do. Axle housings, differential housing and parts, torque tube and coupling components, radius rods (-both rears and front), front axle, brake cross-shaft, pedals, accelerator assy., steering gearbox, steering column, frame, actuator shaft housings, gas tank, transmission castings, etc. all makeup enough stuff that you cannot assemble a close representation or a clone of an authentic looking Model-A. __________________ . BRENT in 10-uh-C . www.model-a-ford.com ...(...Finally Updated!! ) .

11-14-2021, 07:38 PM	#16
Chris in WNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spruce Pine, NC Posts: 1,458	Re: 100% Replica Model A Somewhere in my archives, I have a newspaper clipping {Tampa Tribune, early to mid-'70s} about an outfit (family?) in north central FL that was building "new" Model As by using a combination of repro parts and restored parts. Sometime in my copious free time (ha-ha) I'll try to track that down and report back.... __________________ our next Model A is out there in the unknown......

11-14-2021, 08:10 PM	#17
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,899	Re: 100% Replica Model A Brent, All that stuff could be manufactured with enough money. Maybe a few million. But why? If I was going to throw that much money at a car it would be a 1927 Bugatti, which has been done, by the way. Or some other high end car. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past. Last edited by nkaminar; 11-15-2021 at 08:28 AM. Reason: correct typo

11-15-2021, 04:10 AM	#19
Oldbluoval Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Signal Mtn, TN (SE TN) Posts: 2,370	Re: 100% Replica Model A Many classics are actually remanufactured cars. Often started with an original chassis and maybe a running gear. Then a complete new body and all else fabricated by talented craftsmen. I can name several specifically …..but won’t!