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pooch · 02-07-2014, 12:52 AM

Can a late 28/29 flywheel/single diaphragm clutch/gearbox be fitted to an early 28 engine that at present has a multi disc clutch ?

dlshady · 02-07-2014, 01:25 AM

Yes, the flywheel bolt pattern is the same. You just need to change the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing and transmission. The transmission tops will swap over from one to the other.

Tom Wesenberg · 02-07-2014, 11:11 AM

Also the two pedals since the shaft size is small for the multiplate.

dlshady · 02-07-2014, 11:42 AM

Yup, I thought about that right after I logged off last night. Pooch is down under though, and they put their pedals on the wrong side of the engine so it might be different for him.

Purdy Swoft · 02-07-2014, 12:04 PM

If you use the old transmission,, You will need to replace the transmission input shaft and throw out bearing setup.

John LaVoy · 02-07-2014, 12:53 PM

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All of that is true, we are working on the reverse procedure right now. Back in the 60s I pulled all of the multiple disk clutch out of my phaeton I am now rebuilding all of the components and will put it back as we do a full restoration. My wife suggested the phaeton needed a little love since I restored it in 1965 and drove the wheels off of it for 40 years, before sidelining it for the sedan as our tour vehicle of preference.

pooch · 02-07-2014, 01:11 PM

OK, slight change of tack...

Can I put the entire early engine /multi disk clutch /gearbox assembly back to the universal joint into a 29 ?

And then just change the gearbox shifter plate so as to have the centre park brake ?

Tom Wesenberg · 02-07-2014, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooch

OK, slight change of tack...

Can I put the entire early engine /multi disk clutch /gearbox assembly back to the universal joint into a 29 ?

And then just change the gearbox shifter plate so as to have the centre park brake ?

Yes

dlshady · 02-07-2014, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

If you use the old transmission,, You will need to replace the transmission input shaft and throw out bearing setup.

The only problem with that is the transmission cases from multi-disk transmissions don't have the four holes in the front face where the front bearing retainer attaches.

Purdy Swoft · 02-07-2014, 01:37 PM

Yes there would be four holes to drill and tap. It would probably be more trrouble than it would be worth if you had a later transmission.

pooch · 02-07-2014, 03:04 PM

Thanks all. this gives me a few options.

02-07-2014, 12:52 AM	#1
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Early 28 to late 28 engine swap Can a late 28/29 flywheel/single diaphragm clutch/gearbox be fitted to an early 28 engine that at present has a multi disc clutch ?

02-07-2014, 01:25 AM	#2
dlshady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 538	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap Yes, the flywheel bolt pattern is the same. You just need to change the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing and transmission. The transmission tops will swap over from one to the other. __________________ My latest build thread: https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67881

02-07-2014, 11:11 AM	#3
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap Also the two pedals since the shaft size is small for the multiplate.

02-07-2014, 11:42 AM	#4
dlshady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 538	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap Yup, I thought about that right after I logged off last night. Pooch is down under though, and they put their pedals on the wrong side of the engine so it might be different for him. __________________ My latest build thread: https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67881

02-07-2014, 12:04 PM	#5
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap If you use the old transmission,, You will need to replace the transmission input shaft and throw out bearing setup. Last edited by Purdy Swoft; 02-07-2014 at 12:10 PM.

02-07-2014, 12:53 PM	#6
John LaVoy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocklin, CA Posts: 1,219	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) All of that is true, we are working on the reverse procedure right now. Back in the 60s I pulled all of the multiple disk clutch out of my phaeton I am now rebuilding all of the components and will put it back as we do a full restoration. My wife suggested the phaeton needed a little love since I restored it in 1965 and drove the wheels off of it for 40 years, before sidelining it for the sedan as our tour vehicle of preference.

02-07-2014, 01:11 PM	#7
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap OK, slight change of tack... Can I put the entire early engine /multi disk clutch /gearbox assembly back to the universal joint into a 29 ? And then just change the gearbox shifter plate so as to have the centre park brake ?

02-07-2014, 01:37 PM	#10
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap Yes there would be four holes to drill and tap. It would probably be more trrouble than it would be worth if you had a later transmission.

02-07-2014, 03:04 PM	#11
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: Early 28 to late 28 engine swap Thanks all. this gives me a few options.