Installing a Model B engine/trans in an A

[Turner]

I learned this week that one of my favorite vendors is going out of business. That’s Auto Care and Restoration (AC&R), www.partsformodelafords.com. They used to carry a rear motor mount designed for installing a Model B engine in a Model A. Also, they carried a kit for adapting the Model B transmission (radius ball, E-brake, foot brake and clutch pedal attachments).

I know that many folks like to install V8 transmissions, in Model As, but the B engine/trans combo is a very nice set-up, especially since the V8 gears can be installed in a B transmission.

Does anyone know another source for these adapter kits?

[d.j. moordigian]

Look at Sacramento Vintage, saw it there catalog, look online.

[Art Bjornestad]

Aren't the syncros quite a bit different on a 39 vs. a 32?

[d.j. moordigian]

Yes, look at Van Pelt's, hope I didn't misspell, on the home page of the Barn

[LeroyM]

There is a difference in the syncros. Here's the link, http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...sID_3speed.htm

[Jim Brierley]

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I wrote a short article on this conversion, e-mail me at [email protected] and I will wend it to you if you want.

[CWPASADENA]

Originally Posted by forever4

The Model B transmission already has the "V8" gears. There is no difference.
Only the cases are different between 1932 B and Early V8. All the internals and the shift tower and lever are all the same parts.

Could he be refering tho the later V-8 gears with the better syncronizers?

In my opinion, the later gears makes a better shifting transmission,and you have a wider choice of ratios.

Again, JUST MY OPINION.

Chris

[Fred A]

Keep in mind that use of the later gears in a B trans also requires at least a '36 and better a '39 shift top with the 91prefix shift fork, an additional expense. Beyond that, the kit needs to include the bracket to mount the Ebrake on the top. Lots of pieces. Glad to hear that Sacramento may have the install kit. Good Luck: Fred A

[Richard in Anaheim CA]

The '32 trans has straight cut low, reverse gear. You can't mix them with the later gears.

Richard
Anaheim CA

[Fred A]

[QUOTE=Richard in Anaheim CA;35581]The '32 trans has straight cut low, reverse gear. You can't mix them with the later gears.

Depends on how later. Between '32 and '35 there were two kinds of gearsets as shown in the service bulletins but usually later refers to the changes of '39-'40 that is pretty much mixable thru '51 light duty pickups. A technicality for sure. Those later gearsets call for the shift fork with the 3" width and correct offset. That fork can be fitted to the '36 shift top but most use the superior '38 double detent top. The most popular reason to use the later gears is that the synchro is superior, the shifter throw shorter, and there are four(really 5) different ratio sets that can be chosen to get the gear reduction just right for the car and engine's power, plus it is more simple than getting the earlier gearsets to stay in gear. I wouldn't use that early stuff except for an authentic restoration. Can hardly give away the early gear and tops cause the guys that actuall use the stuff know better. Good Luck: Fred A

[Turner]

Thanks to everyone who responded, especially to Vince, D. J. Moordigian and "Hoop" with Cling's Aftermarket Products, who pointed me to

http://www.vintageford.com/sect_sear...ngine%20Mounts

[Turner]

For anyone planning on installing a B engine/trans in a Model A, the only source I know of for the adapter kit is Bert's.
www.modelastore.com

[SteveB31]

Yes, we made a run of those brackets to install the B engine/trans in the A chassis. We have many sets in stock. We also have most of the other specialty itmes that AC&R made, as we bought out their stock last winter.
Steve Becker /Berts Model A Center Denver, CO 800-321-1931

[skryla]

Parts still avail for the conversion?

[Geo. H]

I have a rebuilt early 39 trans (Ford synchros) in a B case that I won't be using. If interested, [email protected]

[SteveB31]

Yes those parts are in stock.

http://parts.modelastore.com/show_Product.asp?ID=3655

Steve Becker
Berts Model A Center

[skryla]

any HAMB discounts?

[Pboone]

Could you send me the list for putting B engine in model a? Phil Boone

[Speedster]

Bttt

[31Abone]

rear motor mount bolt spacing different on a B..good thinking Ford