1956 Crown Victoria Data Plate

[yblock57]

Since we're on the subject of data plate decoding, I had Dad send me the one off his '56 crown. Here's what I've dug up. That pesky production code is the only part that seems to be questionable (like the early '57 posted prior). Any comments/corrections welcome.

One noteworthy thing here is the production date; May 2nd. We were always under the impression this was an early production car due to the air-cooled Fordomatic transmission. Anyone have an any info when they switched to the liquid-cooled FOM?

56_crown_plate.jpg

P = 312 4v
6 = 1956
D = Dallas Assembly Plant
W = Crown Victoria
198517 = 98,517th car assembled
64A = Fairlane Crown Victoria (steel top)
L = Peacock Blue (lower body)
E = Colonial White (upper body)
S = Style-Tone (tu-tone)
AN = White Vinyl & Dark Peacock Cloth
2E = May 2, 1956
10 = Dealer Code
7D = Scheduled Item #



Thanks,

[rotorwrench]

The dealer code was only for cars that were ordered by the dealer network. Cars that were built on speculation likely had no dealer code. That 107D at the end can be argued till the cows come home but I would figure that there would tend to be a line production number for that day. All my earlier cars have a number for that since none were special ordered. I don't know if special ordered cars were treated differently on the line number or not. There are just too many possibilities to be sure.

The air cooled transmission was continued on some engine applications. The higher the performance level, the better the chance that is would have the radiator cooling set up.

[yblock57]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

The dealer code was only for cars that were ordered by the dealer network. Cars that were built on speculation likely had no dealer code. That 107D at the end can be argued till the cows come home but I would figure that there would tend to be a line production number for that day. All my earlier cars have a number for that since none were special ordered. I don't know if special ordered cars were treated differently on the line number or not. There are just too many possibilities to be sure.

The air cooled transmission was continued on some engine applications. The higher the performance level, the better the chance that is would have the radiator cooling set up.

Thanks, Rotor. Agreed that that production code is a can of worms. Too bad it can't tell what sales district it was shipped... Other than having the original invoice, it's likely impossible to ever know for sure.

Dad thinks they went to liquid-cooled FOM's in June '56. Probably debatable as well depending on what it was bolted behind as you pointed out.

[mercman from oz]

1956 Ford Fairlane Crown Victoria

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by yblock57

Dad thinks they went to liquid-cooled FOM's in June '56. Probably debatable as well depending on what it was bolted behind as you pointed out.

He's correct, but V8 only.

FORD made a bunch of changes (engine and trans) 1956 mid-year production.

[KULTULZ]

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Originally Posted by rotorwrench

The dealer code was only for cars that were ordered by the dealer network. Cars that were built on speculation likely had no dealer code.

Again speculation. Every car was assigned to a DISTRICT SALES OFFICE, and that included DEALER ORDER or for inventory. FORD did nothing on speculation.

[rotorwrench]

I wonder how many dealers had to take cars that they really didn't want just to keep there franchise over the years.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

I wonder how many dealers had to take cars that they really didn't want just to keep there franchise over the years.

That's an interesting question. I would a$$-u-me that they would have to stock a minimum number (according to dealer size and past sales records) and FORD would choose the build (as they would know what was most likely to sell or not), the dealer being able to order its own stock and/or a customer special order.

I worked for several dealers over a twenty-plus year period but all of this was history then.

[1942deluxe]

I started running a small Ford dealership in 1992 and every order was a retail order or a stock order that the dealer placed. We were what is called a select dealer. The larger "contact" dealers were required to take a certain amount of units each month. Years before Ford "bulked" units to all dealers. Resulted in some odd units like a 1960 Galaxie with every option but with a 6 cyl. three speed stick per a salesman that worked for me.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by 1942deluxe

I started running a small Ford dealership in 1992 and every order was a retail order or a stock order that the dealer placed. We were what is called a select dealer. The larger "contact" dealers were required to take a certain amount of units each month. Years before Ford "bulked" units to all dealers. Resulted in some odd units like a 1960 Galaxie with every option but with a 6 cyl. three speed stick per a salesman that worked for me.

THANK YOU for the clarification -

[chain drive]

ford service letter p-298 march 16, 1956 the new trans. has a steel impeller instead of the al. one it shows pic of the water cooler lines and radiator it also said 8 cly. only have many service letters looked at them last nite for 3 hrs. lots of things got redone that we never new ford barn has a lot of good people trying to keep this sport going

[KULTULZ]

ford service letter p-298 march 16, 1956 the new trans

Muchly Appreciated ...

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by 1942deluxe

I started running a small Ford dealership in 1992 and every order was a retail order or a stock order that the dealer placed. We were what is called a select dealer. The larger "contact" dealers were required to take a certain amount of units each month. Years before Ford "bulked" units to all dealers.

It just dawned on me what the poster was describing.

hUKtd oN fonIx - WerX 4 mEE

[chain drive]

hi kultulz do you have any service letters? i am better working on fords then running this machine our daughter might print them for you if i can get her over here

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by chain drive

hi kultulz do you have any service letters? i am better working on fords then running this machine our daughter might print them for you if i can get her over here

I have few. 57fordsforever has some online. What periods do you have? I will gladly pay paper, ink and time for copies.

THANX for the offer!

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by chain drive

hi kultulz do you have any service letters? i am better working on fords then running this machine our daughter might print them for you if i can get her over here

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

I have few. 57fordsforever has some online. What periods do you have? I will gladly pay paper, ink and time for copies.

THANX for the offer!

Here is the thread from 57fordsforever showing most bulletins for the 1957 model run - http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=3220.0

It is four pages.

I am really interested in 1956 as that year FOMOCO did a lot of upgrades to the FYB.

An excerpt from one gentleman in the above referenced thread -

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EDIT - RetractBob - Reply #11

(To Give Credit Where Due)
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Which, now knowing something of my background on 57 Fords, brings me to your topic on Service Bulletins. Since I am a new member here, I of course didn't see your original posting from last October until now. I also see that there hasn't been any "activity on it since a few weeks after your original posting, so I hope this reply isn't "in vain". "Service bulletins" are one of the items I "attacked" very heavily in the 80's. I use the term "service bulletins" very generically as it is something that has been misconstrued by many over the years. Ford actually published 3 main "service type" letters over the years which cover our '57's : these were Management Service Letters (1948-62); Product Service Letters (1948-62); and Technical Service Bulletins (1950-62). The Product Service Letters (which it appears are what you have been scanning and referring to as "Service Bulletins") are most often referred to incorrectly as Technical Service Bulletins. This became such a misconception that I wrote a narrative on the three major types of publications (focusing on the TSB's) over 25 years ago. As most wouldn't be interested in the almost 7 typewritten pages I wrote, I have not included it here, but can email it to you. However, I will summarize the 3 here :

MSL - 1948 - 1962 ; M1 - M242 (M144- M162 cover the 1957 Model year)

PSL - 1948 - 1962 ; P1 - P500 (P320-359 cover the 1957 Model year)

TSB - 1950 - 1962 ; # 1 - # 513 (# 227 - 278 cover the 1957 Model year)

[alt63bird]

https://1956-ford.com/images1956ford...te-decoder.pdf has a bunch of '54-'56 Ford data plate decoding info. Re: Production code and use of letter at end, I'm not sure when they started showing up at the end of the string during '56.

I know Crown Victoria Ass'n collects this data but to date the person collecting data plate info has refused to share information (I've asked and tried to get info several times in my 35+ years of membership only to get 'crickets'). I'd really like to know what CVA has done with this information as they've been collecting it since the '80s.

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by alt63bird

I know Crown Victoria Ass'n collects this data but to date the person collecting data plate info has refused to share information (I've asked and tried to get info several times in my 35+ years of membership only to get 'crickets'). I'd really like to know what CVA has done with this information as they've been collecting it since the '80s.

I can understand it as the the ASSOCIATION is closed to members only and why share the info if not being compensated?

I have gathered a bunch of information and need to go through it. One needs the earlier CHASSIS CATALOG and pertinent service publications to close it.

I don't want to stick my foot in my mouth again ...

[LOWRIDER]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

I wonder how many dealers had to take cars that they really didn't want just to keep there franchise over the years.

My Dad worked at a Ford dealer starting in the early 50's. It had been in business for a long time when he started. I'd heard the owner was cranky guy and pretty well off. My Dad and others that worked there said that if Ford sent him some cars he didn't order he'd get on the phone with Ford and tell them to come pick them up otherwise it would be a great place to open a Chevy dealer. Different times.

[alt63bird]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

I can understand it as the the ASSOCIATION is closed to members only and why share the iinfo...

I've been a member of CVA since 1987, and I still am. My frustration is that I've yet to see data processed into articles or other useful or interesting information after all this time. I've compiled similar data plate info since the 80s for the group I've been a tech editor/director for and generated numerous articles with statistics on production information like percentages of color and interior usage and related trivia over 4 decades, but that's the statistical geek in me coming out. Just gathering info and not doing anything with it is an opportunity lost in my mind.