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Old 01-01-2020, 03:10 PM   #181
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I have a set of shackle bushings to do and was considering making a tool like that out of an old C clamp, or possibly making adapters for my ball joint press.
Do you have any better pictures of it?
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Does this help? Let me know please.
Note the bushing on the working end is both internally relived as well as threaded. It gets threaded on to the pin until it bottoms out against the pin body. That way, both the pin and body are pressed simultaneously. The other end fits nearly size for size within the "far end" of the tool. That bushing is relieved so it fits nearly size for size within the perch and spring ends. Of course, the inside of this bushing is relieved to allow the pin to enter it during installation.
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Old 01-01-2020, 04:08 PM   #182
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Thank you! Yes that helps. The tool that I used to hammer the bushing in before is kind of the same way it screws onto the stud and then bottoms out on the sleeve so that you press the bushing in all as one piece. Maybe I can modify that and make it work on a screw type press.
I have a friend with a lathe and I believe that he could make the sleeve for the other end without any problems.
These bushings are going in a 1947 front and and as you say the only drawback is getting a tool that will fit with the axle /wishbone assembly in place.
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Old 01-01-2020, 04:35 PM   #183
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For what it's worth I once improvised a press for the rear axle perch bushings on the 33. I put the bushes in the spring using a good bench vise. I couldn't do that with the axle so took the vise to the axle. It worked well.

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Old 01-01-2020, 06:26 PM   #184
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This kit can be modified for many uses. Pushing out & pulling in wheel studs is just one. It may be able to be modified for shackles https://www.harborfreight.com/ball-j...les-63279.html
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Old 02-05-2020, 08:08 PM   #185
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Nope, I haven't stopped working on this coupe - just not much interesting to report. At this point ALL of the metal work is done. Now it's down to the finish work. The roof was the last part to metal finish - that got completed today.
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:40 PM   #186
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why all the grinding on the roof, hail damage?
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Old 02-06-2020, 12:42 AM   #187
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Could be metalworking rust pits. I did a lot of that on my avatar roadster, hadn't thought of hail damage. Don't see that in this area.
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Old 02-06-2020, 02:20 AM   #188
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Yes!!!
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:07 AM   #189
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Could be metalworking rust pits. I did a lot of that on my avatar roadster, hadn't thought of hail damage. Don't see that in this area.
You got it! Very small rust pits.
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:33 AM   #190
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So, how do you treat the small rust spots, spot sandblast or chemically?

I would also like to see more pictures of the tailpan and toolbox replacement. I have that repair to deal with on my '37 coupe.

Thanks for taking us along on this project.
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So, how do you treat the small rust spots, spot sandblast or chemically?

I would also like to see more pictures of the tailpan and toolbox replacement. I have that repair to deal with on my '37 coupe.

Thanks for taking us along on this project.
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First, the entire body gets (plastic) bead blasted. The pros of this method? NO warping and NO pitting of the sheet metal. The cons? It won't remove rust. On the plus side, it makes it that much easier to see even the smallest rust spot for proper repair / metal replacement.
I do some sand blasting. Areas like the gutters and other difficult areas to access.
I never use any chemical stripping agents on any part that has lapped sheet metal or other area(s) that may have the (remote) possibility the chemical may not be thoroughly cleansed. Too many times, I've seen chemicals come back to "haunt" an otherwise beautiful paint job. It can take years but it too often can have disastrous effects. In my opinion - why chance it?

I'll see what I can find for the tail pan R&R. I will strongly advise you to remove the old pan by spot facing ALL of the authentic spot welds and removing the lead at the factory seam. Also, only tack the new pan in place and fit both the trunk lid, the trunk latch and both rear fenders before committing to the pan's installation.
The pans I'd purchased from Drake many years ago were very nice and required very little to fit properly. The current pans on the market are "okay" at best and require some serious modification to fit the way I demand of my own work.
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Zeke,
These three photos were all I took of the rear pan installation. What is not shown is the fact I needed to remove approximately 3/16" vertically from both sides of the pan where it bolts to the fenders. Simply put, the repop pan was a tad wider than the authentic pan.
There was also some modification required where the lip the rubber seal goes on meets the adjoining lip of the body. The lip on the repop pan was much taller than the authentic pan. Easy fix but something to watch for.
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Excellent work Mike. Thanks for taking the effort to post up the pics.

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Kube, thank you for the additional information. I remembered you had said earlier in the thread about plastic bead blasting the sheet metal. I was not aware of the limitation this process not removing rust.

I also understand your concern about chemical stripping with seams and lapped joints, I have seen the telltale signs of the chemical leaching out of seams years after the body was dipped.

I think my options for a repop tailpan for a 37 coupe are pretty limited, EMS or make it myself. I did find an article in an old V-8 Times issue discussing how a fellow made a repair tail pan panel. That will be a challenge.

Again, thanks for putting this thread together. I enjoy following along.
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Old 02-06-2020, 03:54 PM   #195
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Kube, thank you for the additional information. I remembered you had said earlier in the thread about plastic bead blasting the sheet metal. I was not aware of the limitation this process not removing rust.

I also understand your concern about chemical stripping with seams and lapped joints, I have seen the telltale signs of the chemical leaching out of seams years after the body was dipped.

I think my options for a repop tailpan for a 37 coupe are pretty limited, EMS or make it myself. I did find an article in an old V-8 Times issue discussing how a fellow made a repair tail pan panel. That will be a challenge.

Again, thanks for putting this thread together. I enjoy following along.
As you are no doubt already aware of... EMS makes poopy for the most part. The pan from them might, just might, be a decent starting point. I wish you the best with this.
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Old 02-06-2020, 04:21 PM   #196
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I used the EMS pan on a '37 and it is a good starting point. It does take some maneuvering to get it to fit. The lip for the rubber seal is definitely too wide and will need trimming. Unless they have changed, they do not put the bumper iron cutouts in the pan. I'm not sure, but I thought that McPherson College in Kansas was making some panels for '37 in their restoration shop.
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Great work as always, Mike.
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TJ, I will follow up on that tip.
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Great work as always, Mike.
Gosh Dave, coming from you means a ton to me. Thank you.
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