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V8COOPMAN · 08-28-2021, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie ny

Robert....send it with the other parts, I think I can make the repair.
Charlie ny

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Eagle43 · 08-29-2021, 12:04 AM

If I couldn't find a replacement and it is indeed is made of pot metal, I would grind off a sixteenth or an eighth off the bottom and make a 1/16 or 1/8 steel "gasket" to replace what I ground off and glue it in place with JB Weld. Paint it and it will look original and will not break again.

As for the suggestion to 3D print one and cast it - this is doable but would involve a lot of work and skill. First you would need to make a CAD drawing, save it as an STL file and print it in PLA. Then you would cast it in aluminum using the "Lost PLA" method. Many hours of work compared to the 30 minutes or so involved in doing my suggested fix.

19Fordy · 08-29-2021, 08:13 AM

Eagle43: Thanks for the feedback about 3D printing and casting.

How about lost wax casting?

rockfla · 08-29-2021, 08:34 AM

Thanks everyone for all of your input, I maybe Have a line on a replacement BUT the fight, thrifty-ness and the repairman in me STILL would like to SAVE it.

CharileNY - IF it’s okay can I call you??? I have an idea, my machinist can drill me some small holes for “pinning” it with some 1/32 or 1/16 roll pins both for lateral strength AND alignment BEFORE any welding or any kind of Epoxy type repair is attempted.

19Forty - Yes the exact pump and year you posted!

Dean333 - Thank you for the potential Offer of your extra pump BUT I think IF your pump is in fact a 1934, it would be a completely different pump. Doesn’t your Mount to the oil filler tube on the side, same as 1935?? “OR” shouldn’t it?? Thanks for the thought and kind offer.

I will keep all posted of my success (or failure)

Thanks again everyone!!

Charlie ny · 08-29-2021, 08:58 AM

Robert,
My spin is to hi jack Ted's idea....I'd use .062 gauge stock whittled to the same
shape as the base flange then flame 'toughen' to resist bending. The broken ear can
be mimicked with a chunk of extruded aluminum (quite tough integrity wise) machined
like a recess clamp that will trap a flat machined on the broken area.....I'm in the
weeds now trying to articulate. Guess I'm better with a milling machine than English.
Since the pump and stand are one I'd add a .062 disc in the p/r cup of the

pump arm.
Charlie ny

rockfla · 08-29-2021, 09:18 AM

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I’ll send it up along with another pump. Thank you “CAS”!!!

Eagle43 · 08-29-2021, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Eagle43:

How about lost wax casting?

You can buy wax filament and print your model with that. It's not very common and more expensive than PLA but is designed for the purpose. Filament is normally sold in 1 kg spools. The process of casting is the same.

08-29-2021, 12:04 AM	#22
Eagle43 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 167	Re: Any one have success with a repair?? If I couldn't find a replacement and it is indeed is made of pot metal, I would grind off a sixteenth or an eighth off the bottom and make a 1/16 or 1/8 steel "gasket" to replace what I ground off and glue it in place with JB Weld. Paint it and it will look original and will not break again. As for the suggestion to 3D print one and cast it - this is doable but would involve a lot of work and skill. First you would need to make a CAD drawing, save it as an STL file and print it in PLA. Then you would cast it in aluminum using the "Lost PLA" method. Many hours of work compared to the 30 minutes or so involved in doing my suggested fix.

08-29-2021, 08:13 AM	#23
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,941	Re: Any one have success with a repair?? Eagle43: Thanks for the feedback about 3D printing and casting. How about lost wax casting?

08-29-2021, 08:34 AM	#24
rockfla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 3,953	Re: Any one have success with a repair?? Thanks everyone for all of your input, I maybe Have a line on a replacement BUT the fight, thrifty-ness and the repairman in me STILL would like to SAVE it. CharileNY - IF it’s okay can I call you??? I have an idea, my machinist can drill me some small holes for “pinning” it with some 1/32 or 1/16 roll pins both for lateral strength AND alignment BEFORE any welding or any kind of Epoxy type repair is attempted. 19Forty - Yes the exact pump and year you posted! Dean333 - Thank you for the potential Offer of your extra pump BUT I think IF your pump is in fact a 1934, it would be a completely different pump. Doesn’t your Mount to the oil filler tube on the side, same as 1935?? “OR” shouldn’t it?? Thanks for the thought and kind offer. I will keep all posted of my success (or failure) Thanks again everyone!!

08-29-2021, 08:58 AM	#25
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: Any one have success with a repair?? Robert, My spin is to hi jack Ted's idea....I'd use .062 gauge stock whittled to the same shape as the base flange then flame 'toughen' to resist bending. The broken ear can be mimicked with a chunk of extruded aluminum (quite tough integrity wise) machined like a recess clamp that will trap a flat machined on the broken area.....I'm in the weeds now trying to articulate. Guess I'm better with a milling machine than English. Since the pump and stand are one I'd add a .062 disc in the p/r cup of the pump arm. Charlie ny

08-29-2021, 09:18 AM	#26
rockfla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 3,953	Re: Any one have success with a repair?? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I’ll send it up along with another pump. Thank you “CAS”!!!