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Old 11-29-2019, 08:37 AM   #21
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There is one for sale on Ebay
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Old 11-29-2019, 11:24 AM   #22
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Hey Terry....By chance, do you have an item number? I can't find it. DD
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:42 PM   #23
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I do not have the number nor can I find the ad any more. Have you checked with Southside Obsolete?
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:29 PM   #24
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is this it? https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SPINDLE...1928-47-FORD-T
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Old 11-30-2019, 07:48 AM   #25
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Default Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts

Yes item:
233415808648
Slightly different in appearance on the stop.
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Old 11-30-2019, 11:28 AM   #26
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well i'll be darned, that link worked last night, and now it says error.
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Old 11-30-2019, 12:11 PM   #27
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Yes item:
233415808648
Slightly different in appearance on the stop.
Seems like the application listed for this part is overly wide; I've only seen the round lock pins in early Model A's and the tube axles.

Personally, I would drill the axle and use normal lock and king pins, since beside the round lock pins, you would also have to find king pins with a round notch.
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Old 11-30-2019, 12:32 PM   #28
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Seems like the application listed for this part is overly wide; I've only seen the round lock pins in early Model A's and the tube axles.

Personally, I would drill the axle and use normal lock and king pins, since beside the round lock pins, you would also have to find king pins with a round notch.

Rich....I'd be careful about drilling an expensive TUBE axle to use the "normal" lock pins. Without going out there and digging-out my tube axle to measure, I believe a tube axle is thicker than an I-beam front to rear where the pins go. And in the case of the king pin notch, the normal notch with the squared-off corners fits the round V8-60 pin perfectly. The king pin won't rotate, nor will it move up or down. DD
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Old 11-30-2019, 12:43 PM   #29
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I just came across this ad by FordBarn member "Hairycanary" making fairly close-looking lock pins. His ad is dated January of this year....FWIW, it might not hurt to send him a PM. Click the link below! Ask the guy to verify that the shank is 0.463" in diameter. DD


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Old 04-02-2020, 07:49 AM   #30
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I've been wanting to get one so I could have my machine shop guy replicate a bunch of them. Anyone care to be a donor? I'll get the original back to you and a new set.




Did you ever get any of the v8 60 king pin locks made? I would like to order a couple . $? Thanks John
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Old 04-19-2021, 10:40 AM   #31
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Here is a drawing I made up off an original pin.

http://https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dsjg1nqYyDPVw7xe8

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Old 04-19-2021, 12:04 PM   #32
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Here is a drawing I made up off an original pin.

http://https://photos.app.goo.gl/5rrjRGsWyLTmbi8e6

Jeb....That is a very NICE drawing. It is virtually spot-on with the dimensions I noted up in post #9 of this thread (repeated below). DD
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Overall length: 3.212"

Total shank length below hex (including threads): 2.063"

Total thread length (threads ONLY): 0.651"

Shank diameter (NOT tapered): 0.463"

Stub length (exposed knob-like part above hex): 0.933"

Stub diameter (tapers down FROM hex): 0.548" MAJOR to 0.538" MINOR (not visually noticeable)

Width (thickness) of hex surfaces: 5/32"-major // 1/8"-minor

Hex size (actual): 0.682".....for 11/16" wrench

Thread diameter (actual): 0.433"......(7/16-20 thread)

Transition radius from STUB to hex: Approx. 1/4" radius
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Old 04-19-2021, 12:35 PM   #33
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Thanks. I'd measured my pin with a caliper. Checked the diameter with a mic and came up with .463 also. Changed the drawing to reflect that. I figured a couple guys had asked for a picture. Wanted to make one up for my future reference anyway.

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Old 04-19-2021, 12:56 PM   #34
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Link to corrected drawing.

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Old 11-21-2021, 12:42 PM   #35
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Will need to address the lock pin issue if I decide to put my nos 37 tube axle to use, while I don't have any readily available king pins available to complete or check the fit I did remove a pair of 39 beam axle lock pins from a donor axle & they appear to fit perfectly, uncertain if in fact the same would be true with king pins in place.
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Old 11-21-2021, 01:34 PM   #36
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Will need to address the lock pin issue if I decide to put my nos 37 tube axle to use, while I don't have any readily available king pins available to complete or check the fit I did remove a pair of 39 beam axle lock pins from a donor axle & they appear to fit perfectly, uncertain if in fact the same would be true with king pins in place.
If the 9/16" lock pins fit; they are the ones to use, and the notch on normal '37-'41 kingpins will be in the right place.

Since your axle is NOS; maybe it's a sign that Ford possibly changed the lock pin design at some point.

That may account for all the 60 axles with 9/16" holes and could indicate that they were born that way instead of being modified at some point during kingpin replacement.

Something to think about, anyway.
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Old 11-21-2021, 07:57 PM   #37
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Some info about stock 37 tube axles.
If you plan on racing with a sanctioned race organization like drags or vintage circle, you will have to have the open ends of the axle welded in.
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Old 11-22-2021, 10:38 AM   #38
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As mentioned in my previous post (dirt car) the beam axle lock pins fit perfectly I'm also using nos 37-39 Spindles with bushings intact, still lacking king pins however wondering if any after market will fit bushings as is or require honing to size......... Also curious to know if anyone has used the so called upgraded but pricey needle bearing type & what the end result opinion might be.

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