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160B · 01-22-2017, 10:46 PM

Published: 01/22/17 10:08 am EST.Updated: 01/22/17 10:10 am EST.

MARION COUNTY, Ohio - A man is dead after a crash in Marion County Sunday morning according to the Ohio State Highway Patrol.
OSHP said Thomas Young, 53, was driving a 1928 Ford Model A westbound on State Route 95 east of LaRue around 12:35 a.m. Sunday.
Young, from LaRue, drove off the right side of the road then overcorrected and drove of the left side of the road according to state troopers.
OSHP said the car hit a tree and Young was thrown from the vehicle.
Young was not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one according to OSHP.
Young was pronounced dead at the scene.

http://www.10tv.com/article/man-kill...-marion-county

Synchro909 · 01-23-2017, 12:30 AM

To fit seatbelts here, they must be inspected and approved by an engineer. Most don't fit them because it is sooo dificult in our cars to meet the standards.I have fitted them but not had them inspected. I wear them every outing and if ever there was a crash, I'd consider them a 100% success if the Police took me to court over it. At least I would "be here to be there"

!!!

mike657894 · 01-23-2017, 01:21 AM

I need to get on making myself a set. Haven't got my car road worthy quite yet.(still no shocks).

pooch · 01-23-2017, 01:47 AM

Don't worry, inspectors over here don't know Model A/s had shocks in the first place.

Mike V. Florida · 01-23-2017, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike657894

I need to get on making myself a set. Haven't got my car road worthy quite yet.(still no shocks).

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooch

Don't worry, inspectors over here don't know Model A/s had shocks in the first place.

Drove mine for years without.

Chippy Minton · 01-23-2017, 03:59 AM

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I'm sure many other people died on the same day despite wearing seat belts and even if they are fitted to a Model A it will never be like a modern car. Without crumple zones, collapsible steering columns and airbags all round but with 90 year old suspension and brakes an A needs driving under control all the time. I never drive my A on roads where it will be vulnerable to fast traffic, trucks and traffic density and anyway it is much more at home on the back roads. Yes, accidents may still happen but that is true when I use those same roads on my motorcycle, bicycle or even on foot.

Synchro909 · 01-23-2017, 04:11 AM

I think there can be no doubt that our risk of accident while driving our Model As is higher than when in our modern cars. Care is essential. If I am going to be driving my A, I NEVER touch a drop of alcohol before hand. I figure I have to be right on top of my game and impairment starts with the first sip of booze.
I'm not making any suggestion that this unfortunate Model A driver was anything but sober.

Mike V. Florida · 01-23-2017, 05:16 AM

Here is how I figure it, could he, due to the severity of the crash, have died with one, yes. But he absolutely died without one.

Bruce Adams · 01-23-2017, 05:23 AM

Mine are there to keep me in, in case of the door popping open on a curve and bump, and having worn seat belts for over fifty years, I feel better with them. I remember Chevron Gas would sell and install them for $5 per set in 1965 or so.

René W · 01-23-2017, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synchro909

I think there can be no doubt that our risk of accident while driving our Model As is higher than when in our modern cars. Care is essential. If I am going to be driving my A, I NEVER touch a drop of alcohol before hand. I figure I have to be right on top of my game and impairment starts with the first sip of booze.
I'm not making any suggestion that this unfortunate Model A driver was anything but sober.

If i understand this right you are drinking alcohol driving a modern car?
When you are driving a modern car beware of model A drivers and don't crash into them..........they are probably wearing no seat belts.

Franchise_24 · 01-23-2017, 06:17 AM

Wow this is about 40 minutes from where I live. I don't know the name though. Prayers to the family.

Synchro909 · 01-23-2017, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by René W

If i understand this right you are drinking alcohol driving a modern car?NO!
When you are driving a modern car beware of model A drivers and don't crash into them..........they are probably wearing no seat belts.

Please don't try to twist my words.

Smooth_One · 01-23-2017, 07:25 AM

I'm putting them in my car! My wife and baby will be riding with me sometimes and we all want to make it home after a fun day of cruising.

BillLee/Chandler, TX · 01-23-2017, 07:40 AM

See http://cedarcreekas.org/TechTopics/index.php for one example of installing seatbelts in a Tudor.

Kevin in NJ · 01-23-2017, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooch

Don't worry, inspectors over here don't know Model A/s had shocks in the first place.

It is not the inspectors that require shocks.

It has been my experience A's with good springs are not manageable above 20-25 MPH without shocks.

JDupuis · 01-23-2017, 08:50 AM

My condolences to Thomas Young's family and friends. Jeff

Lona · 01-23-2017, 09:56 AM

Plenty of threads here on installing seat belts. IMHO, every owner should have them installed. And, if you are going to do it, take the next step and install retractable shoulder belts at the same time. Seat belts alone might save you but in a head-on, you are most certainly going to leave some teeth and face parts on the steering wheel or windshield.

Glen

BILL WILLIAMSON · 01-23-2017, 03:24 PM

MIRACULOUSLY, I rode motorcycles for YEARS, without a seat belt, and I'm still ALIVE, to tipe this!!!
Bill Gambler

DougVieyra · 01-23-2017, 03:36 PM

A great many times in our lives it is extremely prudent to ignore laws.
The seat belt is one of those times.
Like many things in life, it is prudent to do things because they increase the quality of life - not because there is a 'law'.
The seat belt is one of those times.
I installed and began using seat belts in all my vehicle long before there was a law. It was not because there was a 'law' - it was because I believed it would help increase the odds of saving my life or reducing my injuries in a crash.
Currently there is a law that mandates seat belts. I do not wear seatbelts to comply with the law. I wear seatbelts because it is the prudent thing to do.
If there was a law that prohibited the wearing of seatbelts, I would ignore that law.
The seat belt is one of those times.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 01-23-2017, 03:42 PM

MANY years back, we used seat belts, when they were available in the War Surplus Stores!
I still have U.S. Army silverwear.
Bill W.

01-22-2017, 10:46 PM	#1
160B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 1,498	Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one Published: 01/22/17 10:08 am EST.Updated: 01/22/17 10:10 am EST. MARION COUNTY, Ohio - A man is dead after a crash in Marion County Sunday morning according to the Ohio State Highway Patrol. OSHP said Thomas Young, 53, was driving a 1928 Ford Model A westbound on State Route 95 east of LaRue around 12:35 a.m. Sunday. Young, from LaRue, drove off the right side of the road then overcorrected and drove of the left side of the road according to state troopers. OSHP said the car hit a tree and Young was thrown from the vehicle. Young was not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one according to OSHP. Young was pronounced dead at the scene. http://www.10tv.com/article/man-kill...-marion-county __________________ 1931 160B & 1931 68B If you don't have time to do it right the 1st time, how do you have time to do it the 2nd time?

01-23-2017, 12:30 AM	#2
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one To fit seatbelts here, they must be inspected and approved by an engineer. Most don't fit them because it is sooo dificult in our cars to meet the standards.I have fitted them but not had them inspected. I wear them every outing and if ever there was a crash, I'd consider them a 100% success if the Police took me to court over it. At least I would "be here to be there"!!! __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

01-23-2017, 01:21 AM	#3
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one I need to get on making myself a set. Haven't got my car road worthy quite yet.(still no shocks).

01-23-2017, 01:47 AM	#4
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one Don't worry, inspectors over here don't know Model A/s had shocks in the first place.

01-23-2017, 03:59 AM	#6
Chippy Minton Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Seattle Posts: 129	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I'm sure many other people died on the same day despite wearing seat belts and even if they are fitted to a Model A it will never be like a modern car. Without crumple zones, collapsible steering columns and airbags all round but with 90 year old suspension and brakes an A needs driving under control all the time. I never drive my A on roads where it will be vulnerable to fast traffic, trucks and traffic density and anyway it is much more at home on the back roads. Yes, accidents may still happen but that is true when I use those same roads on my motorcycle, bicycle or even on foot.

01-23-2017, 04:11 AM	#7
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one I think there can be no doubt that our risk of accident while driving our Model As is higher than when in our modern cars. Care is essential. If I am going to be driving my A, I NEVER touch a drop of alcohol before hand. I figure I have to be right on top of my game and impairment starts with the first sip of booze. I'm not making any suggestion that this unfortunate Model A driver was anything but sober. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

01-23-2017, 05:16 AM	#8
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one Here is how I figure it, could he, due to the severity of the crash, have died with one, yes. But he absolutely died without one. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

01-23-2017, 05:23 AM	#9
Bruce Adams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northport, NY Posts: 1,597	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one Mine are there to keep me in, in case of the door popping open on a curve and bump, and having worn seat belts for over fifty years, I feel better with them. I remember Chevron Gas would sell and install them for $5 per set in 1965 or so.

01-23-2017, 06:17 AM	#11
Franchise_24 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, Ohio Posts: 782	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one Wow this is about 40 minutes from where I live. I don't know the name though. Prayers to the family. __________________ 1929 Model A Ford Coupe

01-23-2017, 07:25 AM	#13
Smooth_One Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: St Clair, Michigan Posts: 395	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one I'm putting them in my car! My wife and baby will be riding with me sometimes and we all want to make it home after a fun day of cruising. __________________ Isaiah B. 1928 all metal Tudor

01-23-2017, 07:40 AM	#14
BillLee/Chandler, TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: The sticks of east Texas Posts: 474	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one See http://cedarcreekas.org/TechTopics/index.php for one example of installing seatbelts in a Tudor. __________________ Bill Lee http://www.CedarCreekAs.org

01-23-2017, 08:50 AM	#16
JDupuis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Maryhill Ont Canada Posts: 834	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one My condolences to Thomas Young's family and friends. Jeff

01-23-2017, 09:56 AM	#17
Lona Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gloucester, Va Posts: 464	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one Plenty of threads here on installing seat belts. IMHO, every owner should have them installed. And, if you are going to do it, take the next step and install retractable shoulder belts at the same time. Seat belts alone might save you but in a head-on, you are most certainly going to leave some teeth and face parts on the steering wheel or windshield. Glen __________________ '31 Model A Deluxe Roadster '31 Chrysler Model 70 Sedan '88 Pontiac Fiero GT '36 Auburn Boattail Speedster replica

01-23-2017, 03:24 PM	#18
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one MIRACULOUSLY, I rode motorcycles for YEARS, without a seat belt, and I'm still ALIVE, to tipe this!!! Bill Gambler __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

01-23-2017, 03:36 PM	#19
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one A great many times in our lives it is extremely prudent to ignore laws. The seat belt is one of those times. Like many things in life, it is prudent to do things because they increase the quality of life - not because there is a 'law'. The seat belt is one of those times. I installed and began using seat belts in all my vehicle long before there was a law. It was not because there was a 'law' - it was because I believed it would help increase the odds of saving my life or reducing my injuries in a crash. Currently there is a law that mandates seat belts. I do not wear seatbelts to comply with the law. I wear seatbelts because it is the prudent thing to do. If there was a law that prohibited the wearing of seatbelts, I would ignore that law. The seat belt is one of those times.

01-23-2017, 03:42 PM	#20
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Not wearing a seatbelt because the car did not have one MANY years back, we used seat belts, when they were available in the War Surplus Stores! I still have U.S. Army silverwear. Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"