The Ford Barn

firemancooter · 06-20-2020, 01:50 PM

Hello all, my first time asking a question here ( I'm sure there will be lots more). My absolutely beautiful wife surprised me recently with a 1940 pickup, while I'm sure it's a one ton I would like to be positive in my assumption. So my question is what is the difference between a 3/4 and a 1 ton? It has 14 leaf springs and 7 override springs. From what I can find online I know it's one of those two according to the wheelbase. Thanks

Bob C · 06-20-2020, 02:59 PM

Looks like the 3/4 ton was Model 01D or 02D and had 16" wheels.
The one ton was 01Y or 02Y and had 17" wheels.

alanwoodieman · 06-20-2020, 04:10 PM

well I'll be another stake bed! I have a 41 3/4 ton stake bed and a friend had a 39 one ton stake bed. the 3/4 tons had 16" wheels all around like a 39 car wide 5's. One tons had 17" tires/rims on rear called flat base rims. also from what I found the 3/4 tons had wooden stakes on the bed and one tons had metal stakes

alanwoodieman · 06-20-2020, 04:12 PM

more info

alanwoodieman · 06-20-2020, 04:14 PM

sometimes nothing works

firemancooter · 06-20-2020, 05:52 PM

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thanks for the replies. its got the 17's so my guess was good. it didn't start with a deck, I do have the box but it needs A LOT of work.

cas3 · 06-20-2020, 06:28 PM

tell me again please, what are the wide 5 16" wheels that are a bit wider, and do not have the artillery style center?

alanwoodieman · 06-20-2020, 07:44 PM

the wide fives are like artillery wheels or 36 to 39 car wheels but are wider 5" these were used on 3/4 ton up thru 47

51504bat · 06-20-2020, 10:45 PM

To the uninformed Ford wide fives look like a pre '68 5 lug VW rim. Both have open centers. Some say the easiest way to tell them apart is that you can put your head through the middle of a Ford wide five but not a VW wheel. Welcome to the barn. @expavr here on the Barn has a real nice '40 1 ton. He has a wealth of knowledge about these trucks (as do others here as well)

cas3 · 06-20-2020, 11:17 PM

thanks alanwoodie. i thought i remembered it was only a couple year deal, but all the way to 47, as in 39-47? i have a pair to sell, want to know for sure what i am talking about before listing. thanks. sorry for the hijack!!

expavr · 06-21-2020, 12:19 AM

Fireman
Your truck is a beauty and it is a Tonner. The Tonner had 14 rear leaf springs. The 3/4 Ton had 13. All 4 rims on the Tonner are 17" in dia. Front brake drums are 12" in dia. Rear drums are 14" in dia. Attached is a photo of my Tonner with the OEM Ford 17" locking ring type rim and Firestone 700:17 bias ply tires shortly after I restored it. To set the record straight I had the centers of a spare set of rims machined out and welded to a radial style rim and put Michelin LT radials on it to improve driveability. This is the setup that you see in Alan's post of the Tonner. Congratulations on your new acquisition and having a loving wife who blessed you with such a gift!!!
Les Williams

Terry,OH · 06-21-2020, 06:12 AM

What is the wheel base? 122" ? What engine 60 or 85HP?

firemancooter · 06-21-2020, 12:44 PM

Thank you, love your truck. I now have picture for my end goal, and yes very blessed to have my wife who spoils me.

firemancooter · 06-21-2020, 12:52 PM

it is the 85.

GB SISSON · 06-22-2020, 12:21 AM

And it would be 122" wheelbase. I have three '47 tonner pickups, one is a solid runner, two are fixers and a nice 47 tonner panel. Some of just like the heavy stuff. I like the 8' box. That's a beauty your wife got you! Lucky man for sure!

corvette8n · 06-22-2020, 08:15 AM

Nice looking truck, keep us posted with pictures as you work through the truck.

1952henry · 06-22-2020, 09:44 AM

Many nice larger pickups pictured. Been a fan of the bigger pickups my whole life. Hail to the full- floating axles!

06-20-2020, 02:59 PM	#2
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,743	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 Looks like the 3/4 ton was Model 01D or 02D and had 16" wheels. The one ton was 01Y or 02Y and had 17" wheels.

06-20-2020, 04:12 PM	#4
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 more info

06-20-2020, 05:52 PM	#6
firemancooter Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Cardston, Alberta Posts: 5	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) thanks for the replies. its got the 17's so my guess was good. it didn't start with a deck, I do have the box but it needs A LOT of work.

06-20-2020, 06:28 PM	#7
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,568	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 tell me again please, what are the wide 5 16" wheels that are a bit wider, and do not have the artillery style center?

06-20-2020, 07:44 PM	#8
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 the wide fives are like artillery wheels or 36 to 39 car wheels but are wider 5" these were used on 3/4 ton up thru 47

06-20-2020, 10:45 PM	#9
51504bat Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal-Redlands Posts: 3,014	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 To the uninformed Ford wide fives look like a pre '68 5 lug VW rim. Both have open centers. Some say the easiest way to tell them apart is that you can put your head through the middle of a Ford wide five but not a VW wheel. Welcome to the barn. @expavr here on the Barn has a real nice '40 1 ton. He has a wealth of knowledge about these trucks (as do others here as well) __________________ Making the simple complicated for over 30 years.

06-20-2020, 11:17 PM	#10
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,568	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 thanks alanwoodie. i thought i remembered it was only a couple year deal, but all the way to 47, as in 39-47? i have a pair to sell, want to know for sure what i am talking about before listing. thanks. sorry for the hijack!!

06-21-2020, 06:12 AM	#12
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,743	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 What is the wheel base? 122" ? What engine 60 or 85HP?

06-21-2020, 12:44 PM	#13
firemancooter Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Cardston, Alberta Posts: 5	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 Thank you, love your truck. I now have picture for my end goal, and yes very blessed to have my wife who spoils me.

06-21-2020, 12:52 PM	#14
firemancooter Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Cardston, Alberta Posts: 5	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 it is the 85.

06-22-2020, 12:21 AM	#15
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,916	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 And it would be 122" wheelbase. I have three '47 tonner pickups, one is a solid runner, two are fixers and a nice 47 tonner panel. Some of just like the heavy stuff. I like the 8' box. That's a beauty your wife got you! Lucky man for sure! __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1947 Tonner Pickup (red) mostly stock with exception of a cummins 6at turbo diesel, 1946 Tonner Pickup (green) with 226 cu in 6 cyl flathead, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, completely encased in 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. Ok, cornbinder rear fenders..... 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

06-22-2020, 08:15 AM	#16
corvette8n Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 36 miles north of Albany NY Posts: 2,946	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 Nice looking truck, keep us posted with pictures as you work through the truck.

06-22-2020, 09:44 AM	#17
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,615	Re: 3/4 or 1 ton -1940 Many nice larger pickups pictured. Been a fan of the bigger pickups my whole life. Hail to the full- floating axles! __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.