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Old 11-19-2020, 07:59 PM   #1
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Okay, trying to pull together a few items to keep in the trunk, right now its empty. First thing I was wondering is what kind of jack should I purchase in case of a flat. Looks like its going to need a pretty long throw.
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Since you didn't say what year -- the best jack for most early Fords is a scissors jack. I have found that one from a Ford Airostar van works best. It is completely self contained and with a piece of 2by8 as a base, you can get the frame up high enough to change a tire.
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Old 11-19-2020, 10:10 PM   #5
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Sorry, I have a 36 fordor. Since I have not taken the wheels of this vehicle yet, will I have trouble getting the tires out from the fender wells if I jack up the car on the axles? The frame distance from the ground is a long way up there.
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Old 11-19-2020, 10:20 PM   #6
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I have the original bottle jack for my 1936 Ford. In my 1941 Ford I have the original bumper jack but do not trust it, so I also carry an army surplus scissors jack from a Jeep that I use.


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Old 11-19-2020, 10:37 PM   #7
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My 40 coupe is pretty low so I use a low profile US Jack manufactured in Benton Harbor MI
It is a 12 Ton and it is pretty heavy and stable, I refuse to use the POS jacks from China, The US jack is NOT cheap $200 but why take a chance with China crap if you are on the road and need to change a tire? just my 2 cents
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Lightweight floor jack, two jack stands, a bottle jack and a 12 in. 2x 6
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Old 11-19-2020, 11:39 PM   #9
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I use a crappy old 2 1/2T bottle jack and a couple of scraps of 2X12s. An old broom stick works for a handle. No rocket science here. Be sure to loosen the lug nuts before lifting and you’re good.

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If you use the scissors jack on the frame before the rear axle you can get the vehicle pretty high up. I have a 1949 and the rear fender covers that top of the tire. On the front, use the scissors jack on the frame behind the wheel. Dont forget the wedge to chock the wheels so the vehicle doesnt roll.
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Old 11-20-2020, 05:29 AM   #12
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I use a bottle jack that came from an old Ford Econoline van along with a piece of 2x10. I do have the original bumper jack but don't use it.
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The best invention ever. Many years ago I bought a 41 2dr & this was in the trunk. So simple take any spark plug out screw this some kind on one way valve in the hole. comes
with enough air line with air gauge start engine pump up tire. also has a box wrench
for the spark plug. I have never had a flat on the road but mostly got a flat over nite
usually a nail. Its gotta be more than 60yrs old perfect shape. I changed too many
truck and bus tires when I had good bones no more not even a wheel barrow no more....
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big job,

If possible please post a couple of photos of "the best invention" you mentioned
in your post above. Does this invention fill the tire with exhaust from the combustion chamber?
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I also carry this home made tire lever that makes it east to remove and lift a tire without straining your back. Made it from a gardening hoe tool.
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Old 11-20-2020, 09:33 AM   #16
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Be sure to have a tool that will loosen the lugs; like a breaker bar and 6 point socket.

Holds true for your daily, too.

More so if the lugs were tightened by that guy at the tire shop; you know, the one with the heavy trigger finger.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:03 AM   #17
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I carry and use a hydraulic bottle jack, and a scissors jack. These two jacks cover most anything I need to do for repairs or maintenance on a road trip. I also carry an original '35 Ford jack along with all the original tools for display purposes only during shows.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:09 AM   #18
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Two cans of Fix-A-Flat and a lucky rabbits foot.
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My 46 came with a 36 style jack, used it on that car many times, has the flip top that fits the rear tube curve so it can't slip off, the 3 piece handle folds good, and is long enough to push the jack into position, it's the one I have for the 36 too
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I like your "tire lever" Jim!


I carry a fairly heavy duty scissors jack and a piece or 2" X 8" as a platform on the ground. Jack under the axle otherwise you have a very extended and dangerously wobbly situation.


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If possible please post a couple of photos of "the best invention" you mentioned
in your post above. Does this invention fill the tire with exhaust from the combustion chamber?
I bought one of those from JC Whitney when I was about 16. The instructions pointed out that it used the compression to activate a 'pump' which put fresh air into the tire. Without that feature it would fill the tire with raw fuel/air mixture, not exhaust, as it could not ignite without that spark plug.
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I am talking a non stock vehicle here. I have been carrying the cheap floor hack from HF and a jack stand. I even carry a battery operated tire gun all to make life easier. I recently bought a small rv and their scissor jacks are 2.5 ton each and go pretty high. So, I will switch over to that scissor jack, chock my wheels, retain the jack stand for insurance and the tire gun to raise and lower the scissor jack, and a couple small pieces of 2x6. If your car is low like most of mine are, the rv scissor jack (and others) are pretty flat.
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Besides the Jack Daniels, in my 48 I have a scissors jack out of an old Honda. For the other cars, I have AAA towing insurance.
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I have an inexpensive scissor jack. You should be able to get the jack under the axle and you only need to lift the tire 1/2" off the ground. If the vehicle is not severely lowered you should be able to get the wheel and tire off and the spare on.

Most important, make sure you test your equipment. make sure you can get the hubcap off. Make sure you can undo the lugnuts. make sure you can chock the wheels. Make sure you have something to put under the jack if not on solid ground. Go through an exercise of changing one front and one rear wheel. Do this in ideal circumstances and then make sure you stow all that equipment in the car.

If you ever need it out on the road then you can have some confidence you should be able to do what you need to do.

If you just get a jack that someone recommended you might be in trouble if you come to use it and it isn't suitable or you can't get the nuts undone.

I had the tires changed on my daily and some time later I wanted to change a wheel and I broke the wheelbrace (lugwrench) that came with the car. The nuts were so tight I couldn't undo them. I had to loosen all the wheelnuts and torque them properly. I then repaired the wheelbrace and made sure it could undo the properly tightened nuts.

Hence the advice to test what you decide to use.

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cell phone to call a rollback, and a credit card to pay for it and the tire repair. no room in the avatar for a spare or jack.
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Sometimes I'll invite my buddy John along. We shorten his name to Jack...

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Sometimes I invite my friend John along but he prefers Jack!
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I had the tires changed on my daily and some time later I wanted to change a wheel and I broke the wheelbrace (lugwrench) that came with the car. The nuts were so tight I couldn't undo them. I had to loosen all the wheelnuts and torque them properly. I then repaired the wheelbrace and made sure it could undo the properly tightened nuts.



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I have done that also.

Now if I get tires, when I come home, I use my air ratchet to loosen all the lug nuts and re torque them so that I can replace the tire if need be. I even tore a bicep once trying to loosen an over tight lug nut...now that was just over the top!
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I have done that also.

Now if I get tires, when I come home, I use my air ratchet to loosen all the lug nuts and re torque them so that I can replace the tire if need be. I even tore a bicep once trying to loosen an over tight lug nut...now that was just over the top!

What's a good number to torque them to for safety AND removal?
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Small floor jack that came in a case and some wooden blocks.
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What's a good number to torque them to for safety AND removal?
I use 85 ft/lbs.
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I go 75 lbs ft.
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If possible please post a couple of photos of "the best invention" you mentioned
in your post above. Does this invention fill the tire with exhaust from the combustion chamber?
I no longer can get pictures from my phone to the Computer It worked before
I have no clue. As far as getting a mix from compression I imagine it does,
but you are only pumping the tire which has to be fixed anyway to get home.
They sold many of these. There is no makers name so I don't even know
what you call it. As far as its date, I say this was from the flatheads all cars
not for this new stuff where you can't even find the plugs never mind gettin
them out. The thing for the spark plug hole is 14mm so that rules out Model
A's and T's and not for GMs stupid peanut plugs.....
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JM and I were in a 36 Ford and got a flat in Bakersfield CA. There was no jack in the car so we borrowed one from a family in a mini van eating lunch. It was not our car so so as an act of good will for the loan we bought him an original jack.
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That may depend upon how strong you are....
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That may depend upon how strong you are....
I'm not as good as I once was.... But about 4 years ago I had both driver side duals fly off my 92 f350 with 4000 lbs of beams on board at 55 mph. They went into oncoming traffic. One car damaged, no real injuries. The rears now have a 9/16" fine thread jamb nut on top of the lug nut. Just sayin'...
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... and I'm not even good once as I ever was.
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Scissors jack and if that fails cell phone and AAA card.
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I was going to offer AAA but since it's already posted ... I will simply thank this thread for reminding me to include a torque wrench for the lugs. Never crossed my mind and I do have a $20 HF spare. Maybe a rubber mallet for the wheel covers as well.


OK, a well stocked tool chest too and 2 gals of gas and 2 cans of oil.
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Bought one of these from Aldi of all places, that and my Haggerty insurance has roadside assistance.
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Tighten as best you can. then go back and tighten again. I'm not sure people ever torqued wheels before in the actual world. If it won't budge, carry a hammer or a mallet to knock the bar.


80-90s scissor jacks are convenient.
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Carry a tire tool that lets you stand on the end of it for those very tight lug nuts or those put on by a shop with an impact wrench and not checked with a torque wrench. I showed my wife how to do this years ago.
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I kept the scissor jack from my 2000 4Runner after it was totaled to put in the trunk of my 1936 sedan. It has a bit more lift.
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I have the stock bumper jack in my '51. It appears to never have been used. I hope there's not a good reason for that.
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Truth be told, I drive my 36 so little that I don't carry any tools, if it breaks down, I call my with w/our truck and a tow strap or a wrecker.(hagerty and aaa too)
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