Oil filter for KENZ oil filter kit?

[JayJay]

I'm moving through changing fluids on my new-to-me 31 Town Sedan. Got the transmission and differential, next is oil (kinda due, since the last change was in 2012). It has a KENZ oil filter kit - the kind that bolts onto the timing cover. There's a copper tube leading from atop the oil pump to the filter adapter housing.

What is the proper filter for this kit? The filter on it is a FRAM PH2825, but I have no idea if this is the right one. What filter do you folks with this kit use? My local O'Reilly sold me a Wix 51361 as "equivalent" but the two filters not only don't look alike, the gasket diameters are different. So it will go back.

I appreciate the help, folks.

JayJay

[katy]

FRAM PH2825 is a full flow Nissan filter P/N 15208-13201 or 15208-132

[CT Jack]

Personally, I would remove the KENZ unit and reinstall the original came gear cover. Drain the oil and replace it with a quality oil containing zinc additives. Zinc additives help to minimize wear. As a regular maintenance practice I would change the oil every 2000 miles or once a year. This how the Model A engine was intended to be maintained. It's simple and it works.

[Benson]

I bought a Kenz filter more than 50 years ago from Bill Kenz actual.

It came with a MotorCraft FL-1 filter.

[Bob-A]

I believe the NAPA Gold 1515 filter is the same as the MotorCraft FL-1. I use the NAPA filter on my Kenz filter/cam gear cover set-up. My "A" has a B block. Also, the NAPA filter is all black with a peel off decal. And in my "lofty" opinion any filter is better then no filter.


Bob-A



"Back in the day Men were Men, Women were Women, Cars were Cars and Everybody liked it that way"

[JayJay]

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

I ended up with a NAPA Gold 1034, which is the equivalent to the FRAM PH2825 that was on the car. We also looked at the NAPA equivalent to the FL-1 (I don't recall the number, it could have been the 1515 - the guy at the NAPA store was very helpful). Thread sizes were the same and gasket size was very close, but the FL-1 equivalent was at least a 1/2" larger diameter. It did not look like the KENZ adapter was sized for that filter as the edges of the filter would stick out beyond the edges of the adapter. So I went with the smaller diameter but longer filter.

I agree, any filter is better than no filter. Just like any oil is better than no oil (FWIW, I've been using Mobil-1 10W-30 full synthetic in all my Model As and it's been working fine). But please, I'm not looking to start another oil discussion!

Thanks, all, for your input on this.

JayJay

[G Baese]

The KENZ filter has worked well for me for many years. Mainly used the FL-1 filters, has a WIX on it at present. It does have a 90 degree adapter from an old mid-sixties Ford six that makes changing the filter a lot less messy.

[brokenspoke]

I have the same adapter, but I added a Ford Econoline 60's 6 cyl oil filter, so the oil filter is vertical.

[ndnchf]

If the filter is mounted vertically, is there clearance to remove and replace it with engine pans installed?

[G Baese]

Can't say, there are no engine pans on mine.
Good question.

Later-
Got curious and went out to the car, the KENZ setup with the vertical adapter would make interference between the pan and filter.

If the filter setup using the valve cover mount is used with the vertical adapter, there is plenty of room between filter and pan.

[ndnchf]

Ok, good to know. Thanks for checking.

[Grumps]

I just got the new Kenz oil filter kit today and it had a MotorCraft FL-1 with it.

[ndnchf]

Originally Posted by Grumps

I just got the new Kenz oil filter kit today and it had a MotorCraft FL-1 with it.

Where did you get the Kenz? Are they still made? I know Snyders sells a newer version, but didnt think it was a Kenz. Thanks.

[Grumps]

I guess I should have said that it's a Kenz stile oil filter kit. I ordered it from Snyder's and asked them if it was a Kenz and I was told that they weren't sure. I went ahead and ordered it anyway. I have a friend who has an original Kenz on his car and this one looks identical to his. I thought what can go wrong with it because there aren't any moving parts to worry about, so I went ahead and got it.

[ndnchf]

Originally Posted by Grumps

I guess I should have said that it's a Kenz stile oil filter kit. I ordered it from Snyder's and asked them if it was a Kenz and I was told that they weren't sure. I went ahead and ordered it anyway. I have a friend who has an original Kenz on his car and this one looks identical to his. I thought what can go wrong with it because there aren't any moving parts to worry about, so I went ahead and got it.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Please let us know how the installation goes. I'm thinking about getting one too.

[amclass]

Mine came with a MotorCraft FL-1 Filter as well. If you do find another filter that fits, make sure it also has a membran inside that hold the oil in the filter since the filter is installed in a horizontal position. It may not be that important but the manufaturer did that for a reason and I think it makes sense. Let us know, what filter fits. I wonder, if someone ever opened an old filter? Since the A's have almost no oil pressure, I wonder if the oil goes though the whole filter or just the lower portion? Just curious ...

[alexiskai]

Take a look at the Purolator PL30001. That’s the one I have ready to install on the bypass/Kenz-style kit that’s going on the project car.

[JayJay]

Boy, I never figured this question to generate so much interest! I was at a show yesterday and got to look at a lot of engines, and I think every one with this filter system was using the FL-1. I suspect that the next time I change the filter (which will be soon, as it appears that the filter kit needs to be pulled and resealed) I'll use the FL-1. Which appears to have been superseded by the FL-1A.


JayJay

[Flathead]

The Wix equivalent of an FL-1 used to be 51515, easy to remember.

[J Franklin]

Originally Posted by CT Jack

Personally, I would remove the KENZ unit and reinstall the original came gear cover. Drain the oil and replace it with a quality oil containing zinc additives. Zinc additives help to minimize wear. As a regular maintenance practice I would change the oil every 2000 miles or once a year. This how the Model A engine was intended to be maintained. It's simple and it works.

I like filtered oil. If not using a filter Ford says the oil needs to be changed every 500 miles to keep things clean.