33 windshield

[highbeams]

33 windshield gap

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by highbeams

33 windshield gap

[DavidG]

You're missing the chrome-plated die casting that originally filled that gap at the bottom corners of the frame. No doubt among others, they are available a C&G for $11 a pair and are shown as in stock.

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by DavidG

You're missing the chrome-plated die casting that originally filled that gap at the bottom corners of the frame. No doubt among others, they are available a C&G for $11 a pair and are shown as in stock.

*** Thank you, David G. I'll get 'em. hmmm. Would be interesting . . . Why would the frame be engineered this way= gap, & need for a fill-in plug.(odd)

(I used Bon Ami 'hasn't scratched yet', which removed the over-powering dullness 'film' and rust in pits (the car is not a gleaming-repaint resto). I would've left it be, but the Bon Ami and sponge was all it needed

Also consider'g the grill clean-up; bumpers & door handles.

(even the interior handles & cranks have this dull film.(?) Orig mohair perfect. The hidden headliner tacks have light rust.

- this Massachusetts 3w = apparently a rolled-down windows car.
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[T Scott]

The piece David is talking about is not a "fill in plug". It is actually a trim piece that turns an ordinary miter joint into an attractive interface. A nice detail.

[deuce lover]

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Third Gen a member here has them.What he sells does not require you to take the frame apart.Here is the link: I now see they are out of stock.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...9l9hRcLQExhsxJ

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by T Scott

The piece David is talking about is not a "fill in plug". It is actually a trim piece that turns an ordinary miter joint into an attractive interface. A nice detail.

Personally, I think a miter joint would appear much 'cleaner', as in a wood miter joint. The Ford subcontractor that 'did it this way' should've been canned.

Plus, doing it this way requires making another piece; to wit the lump in the corner(s). Doesn't make sense to me.

[highbeams]

[QUOTE=deuce lover;2168418]Third Gen a member here has them.What he sells does not require you to take the frame apart.Here is the link: I now see they are out of stock.

*Okay. thanks. As I replied the other day, I'll get 'em from some place, C&G I gues it was then. I'll check to be sure that they will be the ones w/out taking the frame apart.

[DavidG]

Sheldon,


With respect, I believe that you have to at least loosen the screws holding the frame together at the bottom corners in order to open up the gap enough to slide the inserts into place. At least that is something of an improvement over the '32 deluxe coupe variety where they can only be installed with the two frame pieces completely detached.

[deuce lover]

Yes David the screws have to be loosened as you said but no need to separate the upper and lower sections completely..I should have made it more clear.

[highbeams]

Does anyone know why this frame was engineered with a gap???

Why not just a leeeetle bit longer which would result in clean 'tight' miter(s)???

Replies welcomed.

[deuce lover]

Those that might know are no longer with us.

[DavidG]

And the relevance of the question is....?

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by DavidG

And the relevance of the question is....?

The relevance of the question is as any other question on this forum. . . . . .

"Why?" Why wouldn't the Design Department @ Ford; to wit, Edsel and his top designer Eugene 'Gene' Gregorie (Thee designer of the '33 Ford . . . (with their colossal 'hand-picked' design team) draft the windshield bottom rail just a quarter-inch longer in order to eliminate the gap(s)??? thus creating a 'clean' aesthetic appearance.

Would you direct your hardwood custom cabinet builder,

". . . eh, put a lump of wood there in that miter so I can view the anomaly as I enter the kitchen every day. . . . . . My wife will have a fit seein' it, but, oh, I'm kinda goofy that way."
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That 'out-of-place' oddity will automatically pull your eyeballs to it. Why? Because the lump of wood 'doesn't belong there'!

Replies welcome.


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[highbeams]

Originally Posted by deuce lover

Those that might know are no longer with us.

Thank you! It's a mystery to me.

[DavidG]

Give it some thought in the context of several hundred thousand examples made within a 21 month period (1933 through September, 1934) where plating and plus/minus manufacturing tolerances are involved and maybe it will make sense to you on that scale as opposed to looking at a singe windshield frame.

[VeryTangled]

Originally Posted by highbeams

Would you direct your hardwood custom cabinet builder...

The Rouge never ever in any way shape or form resembled a custom cabinet builder, I think is the answer.

[highbeams]

Originally Posted by VeryTangled

The Rouge never ever in any way shape or form resembled a custom cabinet builder, I think is the answer.

A miter is a miter despite the type/kind of service it is being used for. Understand? Apparently not.

Do your research-research. A miter is designed and used when aesthetics are necessary . . . IN ANY PROPOSITION.

If one has the uncontrollable propensity to stick a metal or wood stick in a joint (for whatever unexplainable reason, DO IT IN A BUTT JOINT; aesthetics aren't mindful upon using the butt joint. AND KEEP THE PIECE FOR YOURSELF; as the strength of the joint is destroyed. Thank you!
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[highbeams]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Give it some thought in the context of several hundred thousand examples made within a 21 month period (1933 through September, 1934) where plating and plus/minus manufacturing tolerances are involved and maybe it will make sense to you on that scale as opposed to looking at a singe windshield frame.

Thank you, David. But why design and create millions of a part or piece that is not needed! For ANY REASON! Particularly not for aesthetics; not for strength. Not . . . needed!

Manufacturing tolerances are involved when making any part. Manufacturing tolerances do not go away by making another part. Then one needs tolerances for that 'nother part!

Do you understand THE REASON FOR A MITER? Aesthetics. Why ruin an aesthetic part or piece by pushing, pressing a foreign piece/chunk into it. Plus . . . . . the foreign piece/chunk = another assembly-line part.

Obviously, aesthetics were present in the mind of the designer,

BECAUSE IT IS A MITER! A miter being somewhat more work in drafting and creation,

(as opposed to far less work re: a simple, typical, flat-out,

downright, LESS-DESIREABLE EYE-APPEAL butt-joint piece.)

A miter has its appeal jussst by being a miter.

It does not need anything ta purdy it up! that . . . is . . . why . . . it . . . is . . . a miter!

That is why it was used in this instance!

Doesn't need a plug, or foreign object jammed in between it!!!

Why use the jamming plug . . . = more time, material, creation of the plug.

Simply a Ford better idea that wasn't necessary in any respect.

Is there any such product i.e., chrome in a tube? (joke)


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[T Scott]

"less desirable eye appeal butt joint piece" I don't think so. I think it adds a little class to the assembly. It is not a piece of woodwork and you might notice that in a lot of present day cars where the roof meets the side body over the windows, there is a trim piece at the joint. This is usually black regardless of the color of the car. Maybe Henry was ahead of his time. We all have our opinions. Let's not beat this to death.