The Ford Barn

Flathead · 01-22-2011, 03:16 PM

Toyota doesn't build anything to compete with either of those!! Or a Hemi Cuda, Cobra-jet Mustang, Buick Gran Sport, Olds 442, Pontiac GTO. All gone into history now.

ole_Bill · 01-22-2011, 04:55 PM

The measure of a true patriot is one who has an American flag decal on his Japanese car.

FlatheadTed · 01-22-2011, 05:07 PM

Well Boys at least we are promoting USA made .I shot this at a local swap meet here in NZ

done4 · 01-22-2011, 05:10 PM

I've been a chevy guy all of my life, because my dad was. Sadly a chevy ain't a true chevy any more. As for NAPA they sponsor a rice burner and have no loyalty to this country. Their only loyalty is to high profits.

Kentf1003 · 01-22-2011, 09:14 PM

As shipping prices are sky rocketing local American companies are gaining some advantage. It's cheaper to ship locally. Big Brown ads are begging companies to think internationally as their long distance rates keep increasing. That's actually helping U.S. factories.

Teich · 01-22-2011, 11:11 PM

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being in Canada geting parts made in "north america" would be nice, then japan, now as all have said who knows where! Owned one jap car a Mazda rotary, now it's Dodge and of course a 48 Ford. If there were more cars and parts for them built in US and Canada more people would have jobs and could buy more things made here. Just think of all the good stuff we couldget then!!! Laurie

Tim Ayers · 01-23-2011, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishHills

Like a 70 LS6 Chevelle or a 68 440 Charger?

You can thank the EPA more than anyone for killing muscle cars.

Remember the same SS Chevelle in '72? That was the start of the smog-era wheezers.

sturgis 39 · 01-23-2011, 07:36 AM

All items manufactured in the USA carry at least a 50% tax burden. Taxes range from state and federal corporate income tax to surcharges on telephone calls. Real Estate, county, social security, business licenses, fuel taxes, unemployment taxes, work mens compensation on and on and on.
These taxes make us non competitive in the world economy.

I would mention Ethanol but I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread.

Never under estimate the power of a large group of stupid people.

IrishHills · 01-23-2011, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sturgis 39

all items manufactured in the usa carry at least a 50% tax burden. Taxes range from state and federal corporate income tax to surcharges on telephone calls. Real estate, county, social security, business licenses, fuel taxes, unemployment taxes, work mens compensation on and on and on.
These taxes make us non competitive in the world economy.

I would mention ethanol but i think one of the monitors is from iowa and he will delete this tread.

Never under estimate the power of a large group of stupid people.

amen!!!

Merc Cruzer · 01-23-2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teich

being in Canada geting parts made in "north america" would be nice, then japan, now as all have said who knows where! Owned one jap car a Mazda rotary, now it's Dodge and of course a 48 Ford. If there were more cars and parts for them built in US and Canada more people would have jobs and could buy more things made here. Just think of all the good stuff we couldget then!!! Laurie

Laurie: First of all my wife is Canadian (London, Ontario) so I agree with you completely.....but remember North America includes all countries north of the Panama Cannel...

"If we are not careful we will be buying our radios from Japan"
Preston Tucker - Tucker Automobile Company

I have do doubt that Henry is rolling in his grave, as much of the same steel he made is now being shipped to China as scrap....and is coming back as part for his cars!!!!

BrianCT · 01-23-2011, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sturgis 39

All items manufactured in the USA carry at least a 50% tax burden. Taxes range from state and federal corporate income tax to surcharges on telephone calls. Real Estate, county, social security, business licenses, fuel taxes, unemployment taxes, work mens compensation on and on and on.
These taxes make us non competitive in the world economy.

I would mention Ethanol but I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread.

Never under estimate the power of a large group of stupid people.

All in all , I still prefer living here or in Canada.

sturgis 39 · 01-23-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianCT

All in all , I still prefer living here or in Canada.

I do not think there is a better country to live in than the USA. I just wish people would quit trying to change it to a country that everybody is trying to escape from.

If they want socialism go to a socialism country and live there. They will want to come back to the USA.

hbleadsled · 01-23-2011, 01:01 PM

Marv- I have mine too ,(old guy) I also own a USA full size pick pu. and a harley. I am sure they have foreign parts also some where. Harold

Tim Ayers · 01-23-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sturgis 39

All items manufactured in the USA carry at least a 50% tax burden. Taxes range from state and federal corporate income tax to surcharges on telephone calls. Real Estate, county, social security, business licenses, fuel taxes, unemployment taxes, work mens compensation on and on and on.
These taxes make us non competitive in the world economy.

I would mention Ethanol but I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread.

Never under estimate the power of a large group of stupid people.

Another great point. The majority of the reason why food prices are going up is due to the large amount of the corn harvest now going to ethanol product.

In one way, I'm glad to see American farmers getting their due. But is coming by way of an artificially inflated market with gas/oil & corn being sold a commodity-market system.

sturgis 39 · 01-23-2011, 02:20 PM

I received an OSHA reporting form in the mail last week. Fines and prison is possible if the form is not completed. The governments estimated time to complete the form was something like four to twelve hours. I will have to have support from the office administrator, the superintendents and the accountants to complete this report. This is time that could be spent making customer calls, estimating new projects, checking on existing projects and filing other government reports. This is a big expense. not only do companies have to pay all of these tax burdens but you have to do all kinds of paper work to pay the taxes. Not only are the taxes passed on to the consumer but the overhead related to all of the paper work is passed on to the consumer.The last project dealt with game fish and parks, BLM, Corp of engineers, EPA federal and state. I had to hire a person to take these people around the project site. The thing that was madding was they would not wear the safety gear that was required by their laws. We conformed but they would not conform to their own rules and regulations.

Do not get me started on the stupidity of ethanol. I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread.

V12Bill · 01-23-2011, 03:25 PM

I own my first Jap car and am very happy with it. I had always owned Ford products in the past until my 99 Taurus came along. That car hundred dollared me to death with a lot of repairs that I never had to make on any car in the past. My 86 F150 had a rod knock at 40,000 miles caused by an engineering boo boo. I had it for 18 years and was sorry to see it go, but Ford never had a recall to correct the problem that dumped crankcase vapors into the # 8 intake runner and caused varnish on the cylinder walls which caused # 8 rod bearing to fail or a hole in the #8 piston. This was not corrected by Ford until 1989. I don't think there are many V8 Ford F150s out there of that vintage. Ford gave the pickup market to Chevy and Toyota.

Marv · 01-23-2011, 06:04 PM

I always owned Fords till i bought a 88 Taurus in 88 and that car eat tires and no one ever got the alignment right for long then at 78,000 miles the transmission went and it went. Drove me to GM and had Buick Lasabres and Chev impala's . Happy as can be and am not about to buy Jap. Marv

IrishHills · 01-23-2011, 07:10 PM

I owned allot of Chevy pickups with no trouble, then I got hooked on Ford E-250 cargo vans, bought one new in 94 put 200K on it and another in 03 150K on it so far, Other than adjustable king pins to get the front wheels to stand up (on both) I've had no trouble. Ford knows about that problem too, but from 94 to 03 did nothing.

Marvin/TN · 01-23-2011, 08:46 PM

I went to a bearing place a few years ago for bearings to restore a mid 1950's Craftsman jointer for my wood shop. I forget which country the bearings were made in but it wasn't USA or China. They told me that no one makes bearings in the USA now, all are foreign made.

Marvin/TN · 01-23-2011, 08:55 PM

Not me, I have only owned one foreign car (65 VW) in my 70 years of life and never ever plan to own another one. Some how the American public has come to believe Foreign made cars are better than what is made in this country. I 1994 Olds 88 LSS got as good or better millage in comfort than most od the smaller foreign cars, usually 32 to 33 MPH at 75 miles per hour

01-22-2011, 03:16 PM	#41
Flathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 1,497	Re: So sad! Toyota doesn't build anything to compete with either of those!! Or a Hemi Cuda, Cobra-jet Mustang, Buick Gran Sport, Olds 442, Pontiac GTO. All gone into history now.

01-22-2011, 04:55 PM	#42
ole_Bill Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 70	Re: So sad! The measure of a true patriot is one who has an American flag decal on his Japanese car. __________________ "I ain't no mechanic, my posts should make that obvious, I'm jus doin my best with what I got."

01-22-2011, 05:10 PM	#44
done4 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Union Pier MI Posts: 392	Re: So sad! I've been a chevy guy all of my life, because my dad was. Sadly a chevy ain't a true chevy any more. As for NAPA they sponsor a rice burner and have no loyalty to this country. Their only loyalty is to high profits.

01-22-2011, 09:14 PM	#45
Kentf1003 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 138	Re: So sad! As shipping prices are sky rocketing local American companies are gaining some advantage. It's cheaper to ship locally. Big Brown ads are begging companies to think internationally as their long distance rates keep increasing. That's actually helping U.S. factories.

01-22-2011, 11:11 PM	#46
Teich Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brandon Mb Canada Posts: 133	Re: So sad! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) being in Canada geting parts made in "north america" would be nice, then japan, now as all have said who knows where! Owned one jap car a Mazda rotary, now it's Dodge and of course a 48 Ford. If there were more cars and parts for them built in US and Canada more people would have jobs and could buy more things made here. Just think of all the good stuff we couldget then!!! Laurie

01-23-2011, 07:36 AM	#48
sturgis 39 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lead. South Dakota Posts: 963	Re: So sad! All items manufactured in the USA carry at least a 50% tax burden. Taxes range from state and federal corporate income tax to surcharges on telephone calls. Real Estate, county, social security, business licenses, fuel taxes, unemployment taxes, work mens compensation on and on and on. These taxes make us non competitive in the world economy. I would mention Ethanol but I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread. Never under estimate the power of a large group of stupid people. __________________ IF IT CAN NOT BE FIXED WITH BLASTING WIRE, JB WELD OR DUCT TAPE ---IT CAN NOT BE FIXED Do not get me started on the stupidity of ethanol. I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete the thread.

01-23-2011, 01:01 PM	#53
hbleadsled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: salinas ca. Posts: 266	Re: So sad! Marv- I have mine too ,(old guy) I also own a USA full size pick pu. and a harley. I am sure they have foreign parts also some where. Harold

01-23-2011, 02:20 PM	#55
sturgis 39 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lead. South Dakota Posts: 963	Re: So sad! I received an OSHA reporting form in the mail last week. Fines and prison is possible if the form is not completed. The governments estimated time to complete the form was something like four to twelve hours. I will have to have support from the office administrator, the superintendents and the accountants to complete this report. This is time that could be spent making customer calls, estimating new projects, checking on existing projects and filing other government reports. This is a big expense. not only do companies have to pay all of these tax burdens but you have to do all kinds of paper work to pay the taxes. Not only are the taxes passed on to the consumer but the overhead related to all of the paper work is passed on to the consumer.The last project dealt with game fish and parks, BLM, Corp of engineers, EPA federal and state. I had to hire a person to take these people around the project site. The thing that was madding was they would not wear the safety gear that was required by their laws. We conformed but they would not conform to their own rules and regulations. Do not get me started on the stupidity of ethanol. I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete this tread. __________________ IF IT CAN NOT BE FIXED WITH BLASTING WIRE, JB WELD OR DUCT TAPE ---IT CAN NOT BE FIXED Do not get me started on the stupidity of ethanol. I think one of the monitors is from Iowa and he will delete the thread.

01-23-2011, 03:25 PM	#56
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: So sad! I own my first Jap car and am very happy with it. I had always owned Ford products in the past until my 99 Taurus came along. That car hundred dollared me to death with a lot of repairs that I never had to make on any car in the past. My 86 F150 had a rod knock at 40,000 miles caused by an engineering boo boo. I had it for 18 years and was sorry to see it go, but Ford never had a recall to correct the problem that dumped crankcase vapors into the # 8 intake runner and caused varnish on the cylinder walls which caused # 8 rod bearing to fail or a hole in the #8 piston. This was not corrected by Ford until 1989. I don't think there are many V8 Ford F150s out there of that vintage. Ford gave the pickup market to Chevy and Toyota. Last edited by V12Bill; 01-23-2011 at 03:26 PM. Reason: Omission

01-23-2011, 06:04 PM	#57
Marv Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 875	Re: So sad! I always owned Fords till i bought a 88 Taurus in 88 and that car eat tires and no one ever got the alignment right for long then at 78,000 miles the transmission went and it went. Drove me to GM and had Buick Lasabres and Chev impala's . Happy as can be and am not about to buy Jap. Marv

01-23-2011, 07:10 PM	#58
IrishHills Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Brooklyn, Michigan "Home of M.I.S." Posts: 398	Re: So sad! I owned allot of Chevy pickups with no trouble, then I got hooked on Ford E-250 cargo vans, bought one new in 94 put 200K on it and another in 03 150K on it so far, Other than adjustable king pins to get the front wheels to stand up (on both) I've had no trouble. Ford knows about that problem too, but from 94 to 03 did nothing. Last edited by IrishHills; 01-23-2011 at 07:16 PM.

01-23-2011, 08:46 PM	#59
Marvin/TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 832	Re: Good bearings I went to a bearing place a few years ago for bearings to restore a mid 1950's Craftsman jointer for my wood shop. I forget which country the bearings were made in but it wasn't USA or China. They told me that no one makes bearings in the USA now, all are foreign made. Last edited by Marvin/TN; 01-23-2011 at 09:22 PM.

01-23-2011, 08:55 PM	#60
Marvin/TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 832	Re: So sad! Not me, I have only owned one foreign car (65 VW) in my 70 years of life and never ever plan to own another one. Some how the American public has come to believe Foreign made cars are better than what is made in this country. I 1994 Olds 88 LSS got as good or better millage in comfort than most od the smaller foreign cars, usually 32 to 33 MPH at 75 miles per hour