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rawlir · 04-26-2024, 06:01 PM

Would anyone know if there is a difference in steering columns between these 2 models? Does the columns make any difference if 2spoke or 3spoke steering wheels? Steering shafts different?

GB SISSON · 04-26-2024, 09:27 PM

I cannot recall any differences between the two, but then again I wasn't looking for any. It seems I have mixed steering wheels from 2 spoke to 4. Never tried a 3. So my answer is rather vague. If you want me to measure anything I could do that tomorrow. I have only had one half ton and that's the woodie so I have something to compare with my tonners.

Dak Rat · 04-27-2024, 06:05 AM

The 1 ton steering shaft is bigger but necks down to take the same size wheel hub.

Bob C · 04-27-2024, 10:42 AM

The Parts Book shows 21C-3503-A Gear assy (steering) less wheel
and arm-LHD (commercial 1942-47) (122" Truck 1940-47)

GB SISSON · 04-27-2024, 02:51 PM

'Commercial' being the 1/2 ton, 122" being the tonner and if it's got a 131" or longer it's called a 'Truck' in Ford lingo and is a 1 1/2 or 2 ton.

rawlir · 04-28-2024, 09:48 AM

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Bob C,
Are you saying the parts book shows 1/2 ton & Tonner parts from steering box up are the same?
Thanks all for responding!!
Rick

Bob C · 04-28-2024, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawlir

Bob C,
Are you saying the parts book shows 1/2 ton & Tonner parts from steering box up are the same?
Thanks all for responding!!
Rick

That's what I get from the parts book.

GB SISSON · 04-29-2024, 08:22 AM

The steering box itself seems to be the same. I have swapped them from one to the other with no alterations.

Model51 · 04-29-2024, 10:28 AM

Here's a clip of this section of the Ford "Green" Parts book. The image is small but legible if enlarged.

petehoovie · 04-29-2024, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Model51

Here's a clip of this section of the Ford "Green" Parts book. The image is small but legible if enlarged.

GB SISSON · 04-29-2024, 11:22 AM

Good detective work Mr. 51. Everyone should have a copy of 'the Good Book' in their automotive library.

04-26-2024, 06:01 PM	#1
rawlir Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 94	47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column Would anyone know if there is a difference in steering columns between these 2 models? Does the columns make any difference if 2spoke or 3spoke steering wheels? Steering shafts different?

04-26-2024, 09:27 PM	#2
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,993	Re: 47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column I cannot recall any differences between the two, but then again I wasn't looking for any. It seems I have mixed steering wheels from 2 spoke to 4. Never tried a 3. So my answer is rather vague. If you want me to measure anything I could do that tomorrow. I have only had one half ton and that's the woodie so I have something to compare with my tonners. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1946 Tonner Pickup with 226 H six, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, now wearing 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

04-27-2024, 06:05 AM	#3
Dak Rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minot, ND Posts: 218	Re: 47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column The 1 ton steering shaft is bigger but necks down to take the same size wheel hub.

04-27-2024, 10:42 AM	#4
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,767	Re: 47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column The Parts Book shows 21C-3503-A Gear assy (steering) less wheel and arm-LHD (commercial 1942-47) (122" Truck 1940-47)

04-27-2024, 02:51 PM	#5
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,993	Re: 47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column 'Commercial' being the 1/2 ton, 122" being the tonner and if it's got a 131" or longer it's called a 'Truck' in Ford lingo and is a 1 1/2 or 2 ton. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1946 Tonner Pickup with 226 H six, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, now wearing 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

04-28-2024, 09:48 AM	#6
rawlir Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 94	Re: 47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Bob C, Are you saying the parts book shows 1/2 ton & Tonner parts from steering box up are the same? Thanks all for responding!! Rick

04-29-2024, 08:22 AM	#8
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,993	Re: 47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column The steering box itself seems to be the same. I have swapped them from one to the other with no alterations. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1946 Tonner Pickup with 226 H six, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, now wearing 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)

04-29-2024, 11:22 AM	#11
GB SISSON Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Orcas Island Washington Posts: 4,993	Re: 47 1/2 ton pickup vs Tonner pickup steering column Good detective work Mr. 51. Everyone should have a copy of 'the Good Book' in their automotive library. __________________ Owner/Operator of 'Jailbar Ranch' on the side of Mt. Pickett. Current stable consists of 1946 1/2 ton pickup turned woodie wagon with FH V8, 1946 Tonner Pickup with 226 H six, 1979 Toyota landcruiser wagon, now wearing 1947 Ford Jailbar sheet metal. 'Rusty ol' floorboards, hot on their feet' (Alan Jackson)