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Floats · 06-06-2015, 11:11 AM

Hi Guys,
Could anyone pse ID the U joint, in the attached pictures, which I found slap in the middle of my Pickup.
Regards
Chris

msmaron · 06-06-2015, 11:31 AM

what pictures??

Floats · 06-06-2015, 01:06 PM

Sorry,

Floats · 06-06-2015, 01:07 PM

One more,

J Franklin · 06-06-2015, 02:29 PM

Model A.

Floats · 06-06-2015, 10:19 PM

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The U joints available from the vendors is different from mine. The new pedal shaft and bushes are also different and much thinner. Is it possible that I have an early AR car. It is registered as a 1928, but who knows?
Regards
Chris

J Franklin · 06-06-2015, 11:16 PM

The vendors sell a more modern ford U-joint used thru 1948, the one you show was factory for the model A. You could be driving an early car what is the serial #?

Tanglfoot · 06-06-2015, 11:58 PM

Pedal shafts were made one inch for the RH drive cars and 3/4 for LH don't know why. I made mine from 1 inch stock and used big end (wrist pin) bushes
Ahooga, Rosco.

Floats · 06-07-2015, 02:11 AM

Tks J,
I believe mine was built from parts and I do not have the serial number because I never saw the frame and it might not even have the same engine number. But thanks anyway. The engine is at the engineering works at the moment.
Regards

TKS Roscoe,
Funny enough the LH/ RHD came to mind but I thought NAA NEVER, CANT BE.
Thanks for the tip.
Regards
Chris
Cape Town

leakers · 06-07-2015, 03:22 AM

Les Pearson has written a book on the right hand drive model A , he used to manufacture most of the parts, but has sold the business now and retired to write about Model As.
Selling his book on Trademe ( a local version of Ebay)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=897509976

also available from Amazon and Model A dealers

or you can see his book and his contact details on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRFtCeGXwOw

He has written other books too.

He sold the parts business to these guys.
http://www.earlyfordparts.co.nz

http://www.earlyfordparts.co.nz/right_hand_drive.htm

Floats · 06-07-2015, 04:52 AM

Tks for the heads up, Leakers, I'll have a look.
Chris

Floats · 06-07-2015, 11:35 AM

Forever 4,
Please read my post #6 then you will know what the 'spam' is all about

Floats · 06-08-2015, 07:15 PM

It seems as if U joints have been out of stock for more than a year now. Any one know of a vender that might have, please. Or suggestions for a substitute unit.
Regards
Chris

J Franklin · 06-08-2015, 08:22 PM

Some are listed on Ford barn swap section. What is wrong with the one you have?

leakers · 06-09-2015, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forever4

What is with all the non related spam?
U joints don't come in RHD and LHD versions!

But you already knew that.

How do you know that U joints are not different in the RHD cars?

I have nothing to do with Mr Pearson other than that I have purchased parts from him.

My intention was simply to share information, just as your website does sir.

May I ask,
Why do you list your website at the bottom of every post you make?

Floats · 06-09-2015, 12:56 AM

J,
Mine still seems good and solid BUT the front part is cracked. It looks as if there is a washer between the gearbox output shaft and the front section of the U Joint which was not insetred correctly. I think the washer was sitting at an angle when the bolt was thightened, which caused the housing to crack.
Apparently the vendors hadnt had any for a year. I suppose it could be welded up until I can get a new one. It is such a hugh job to replace it at a later stage, so I was hoping there was a later model I could use.
Regards
Chris

Edited. In fact if you look closely at my first picture the one in post #3 you can see the crack where the through bolt tightens down.

Tom Wesenberg · 06-09-2015, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floats

J,
Edited. In fact if you look closely at my first picture the one in post #3 you can see the crack where the through bolt tightens down.

I think you are seeing a cracked washer. Try tapping it out of the U-joint.

Floats · 06-09-2015, 02:13 AM

Hey Tom, you are correct. I thought it was part of the casting. I pried it off and the U joint is fine but the washer is cracked.
Thank you very much Tom. I am good to go.
And thanks every one for your input.
Regards
Happy Chris
Cape Town

Tom Wesenberg · 06-09-2015, 05:20 AM

That's a special thick washer with a tab to fit between the splines.
Do you have a spare, or can you order one?

06-06-2015, 11:11 AM	#1
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Another U Joint question Hi Guys, Could anyone pse ID the U joint, in the attached pictures, which I found slap in the middle of my Pickup. Regards Chris

06-06-2015, 11:31 AM	#2
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: Another U Joint question what pictures?? __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

06-06-2015, 02:29 PM	#5
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Another U Joint question Model A.

06-06-2015, 11:16 PM	#7
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Another U Joint question The vendors sell a more modern ford U-joint used thru 1948, the one you show was factory for the model A. You could be driving an early car what is the serial #?

06-06-2015, 11:58 PM	#8
Tanglfoot Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Mangawhai NZ Posts: 66	Re: Another U Joint question Pedal shafts were made one inch for the RH drive cars and 3/4 for LH don't know why. I made mine from 1 inch stock and used big end (wrist pin) bushes Ahooga, Rosco.

06-06-2015, 10:19 PM	#6
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Another U Joint question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The U joints available from the vendors is different from mine. The new pedal shaft and bushes are also different and much thinner. Is it possible that I have an early AR car. It is registered as a 1928, but who knows? Regards Chris

06-07-2015, 02:11 AM	#9
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Another U Joint question Tks J, I believe mine was built from parts and I do not have the serial number because I never saw the frame and it might not even have the same engine number. But thanks anyway. The engine is at the engineering works at the moment. Regards TKS Roscoe, Funny enough the LH/ RHD came to mind but I thought NAA NEVER, CANT BE. Thanks for the tip. Regards Chris Cape Town

06-07-2015, 03:22 AM	#10
leakers Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tauranga , New Zealand Posts: 37	Re: Another U Joint question Les Pearson has written a book on the right hand drive model A , he used to manufacture most of the parts, but has sold the business now and retired to write about Model As. Selling his book on Trademe ( a local version of Ebay) http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=897509976 also available from Amazon and Model A dealers or you can see his book and his contact details on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRFtCeGXwOw He has written other books too. He sold the parts business to these guys. http://www.earlyfordparts.co.nz http://www.earlyfordparts.co.nz/right_hand_drive.htm

06-07-2015, 04:52 AM	#11
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Another U Joint question Tks for the heads up, Leakers, I'll have a look. Chris

06-07-2015, 11:35 AM	#12
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Another U Joint question Forever 4, Please read my post #6 then you will know what the 'spam' is all about

06-08-2015, 07:15 PM	#13
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Another U Joint question It seems as if U joints have been out of stock for more than a year now. Any one know of a vender that might have, please. Or suggestions for a substitute unit. Regards Chris

06-08-2015, 08:22 PM	#14
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Another U Joint question Some are listed on Ford barn swap section. What is wrong with the one you have?

06-09-2015, 12:56 AM	#16
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Another U Joint question J, Mine still seems good and solid BUT the front part is cracked. It looks as if there is a washer between the gearbox output shaft and the front section of the U Joint which was not insetred correctly. I think the washer was sitting at an angle when the bolt was thightened, which caused the housing to crack. Apparently the vendors hadnt had any for a year. I suppose it could be welded up until I can get a new one. It is such a hugh job to replace it at a later stage, so I was hoping there was a later model I could use. Regards Chris Edited. In fact if you look closely at my first picture the one in post #3 you can see the crack where the through bolt tightens down. Last edited by Floats; 06-09-2015 at 01:04 AM. Reason: More info provided

06-09-2015, 02:13 AM	#18
Floats Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mossel Bay, about 300km from Cape Town Posts: 530	Re: Another U Joint question Hey Tom, you are correct. I thought it was part of the casting. I pried it off and the U joint is fine but the washer is cracked. Thank you very much Tom. I am good to go. And thanks every one for your input. Regards Happy Chris Cape Town Last edited by Floats; 06-21-2015 at 05:12 AM.

06-09-2015, 05:20 AM	#19
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Another U Joint question That's a special thick washer with a tab to fit between the splines. Do you have a spare, or can you order one?