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Old 04-09-2021, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default bad Babbitt Bearing or Valve Poor Quality Valve Job

I have a 1950 Ford Custom sedan with 239cu in flathead V8. For over two years I've been hearing a rattle sound from the engine. One mechanic tells me it's bad Babbitt bearing(s). Another mechanic says the rattle is due to a poor valve job sometime in the past. The car runs very well; no oil leak or loss of power. The rattle is not overly loud but noticeable. Wouldn't the car have "blown up" by now if I had bad Babbitt bearing(s)?
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:41 PM   #2
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No 'Babbitt' bearings in that engine of yours. Ford discontinued Babbitt bearings back in 1936. It could be that you are hearing piston slap....
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Old 04-09-2021, 10:18 PM   #4
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Obviously, neither mechanic knows much about early ford v8s.
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Old 04-10-2021, 09:02 AM   #5
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If the oil pressure is good, I would pull the intake and start checking valve gap, easiest thing to check. If wide, will have to pull heads and grind valves, &/or install adjustable. If pulling the valves to change lifters, may as well touch up or just lap them too.
I had a rattley 8RT that ran good, and disassembly showed a depression in the lifter where the stem rode, some quite deep. Could not gauge divot, but about .020. Don’t know why, but replaced with adjustables and lapped valves, run quiet
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Oil pressure is good. What you're saying sounds much better than having engine pulled, disassembled and being sent off for machining.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:35 PM   #7
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That sounds much better. Do you have some more specific readings? Cold/hot idle and cold/hot at speed?

As an example of what can happen, my '51 had good oil pressure but an intermittent rattle when revved up with the clutch in. I finally got tired of it and pulled the engine to install a Merc I had built. To do the swap, I had to switch oil pans (put the Ford pan on the Merc.) When I was cleaning out the Ford pan, I found an inch long piece of the main bearing thurst surface in the bottom of the pan.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:48 PM   #8
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Dont take good oil pressure as no bearing problem. my 99a eng ran 50 hot and 25 hot idle for years ,yet still had a pair of rod bearings that had failed and a rear main , only a slight noise from the engine.
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