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Old 01-13-2021, 05:23 PM   #21
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Ive been learning more and more slight hidden differences in 40 and 41 with the 1941 6 cylinder pickup ive been putting back together.

Years back i did a 1938 big truck . Thats what made me notice the early styles mixed into the 1940 Australian models.
On the big trucks 1938 to 1941, the front fenders will interchange. I used NOS fenders on the 38 but one was a 38 39 the other was a 40 41. Early ones didnt have a notch for the bumper irons. At the time NOS big truck fenders were $100 each at Hershey.
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Old 01-13-2021, 10:00 PM   #22
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If you look at this picture of an American 1941 Ford Pick-Up owned by alanwoodieman, (which appeared in another Thread in Ford Barn) you can see that the Raised Moulding on the Door has only Two Ribs (Top & Bottom), while on the similar Australian models, they have Three Ribs, a carry over from previous years.
This Pickup is an American 1941 model Ford, as you can tell by the extra Chrome Trim on the Hood Side.
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:36 PM   #23
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Fully Restored 1941 Ford Open Cab Pick-Up, complete with Military paint job and Accessories. I believe that all of the Open Cab Pick-Ups were manufactured for the Military.
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Here is a picture of a restored 1940 Ford Open Cab Pick-Up. Notice on this one, that the Pick-Up Bed is totally separate to the Body.
I do agree that the illustrations from the original Sales Brochures look like the Pick-Up Body is part of the Cab, but as you can see on this example, they are indeed separate. I am still trying to find pictures of an original Closed Cab Pick-Up so we can confirm one way or the other.
However, it seems that very few of this model have survived? I will have to continue my search. If anybody elas has anything, can they please add their comments.
Mercman, I must say, I ALWAYS follow your posts. ALWAYS interesting stuff.
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Hi Kube, I really appreciate your kind comments about my contributions to Ford Barn. Many thanks. Mercman <><
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Old 01-14-2021, 09:55 PM   #26
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Unrestored 1941 Australian Open Cab Pick-up. The Australian Military really loved these Open Cab Fords.
It is just a pity that more of them aren't still around.
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Old 01-14-2021, 11:58 PM   #27
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Unrestored 1941 Australian Open Cab Pick-up. The Australian Military really loved these Open Cab Fords.
It is just a pity that more of them aren't still around.
Like there's something NOT to love about them? Love them combat rims. I have some jeep ones on my ford axle pig roaster
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Old 01-15-2021, 01:47 AM   #28
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Looking at this picture of a very nice 1941 Ford Pick-Up, I was wondering if it has the correct Front Fenders for a Pick-Up?
Or, are the Fenders off the next size up 1941 Ford Truck?
It just seems that the Wheel Openings are too large for this vehicle.
What do others think?

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Old 01-15-2021, 05:00 AM   #29
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Are the tires a smaller diameter than stock?........Mark
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Old 01-15-2021, 08:27 AM   #30
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fender are for 3/4 ton truck and up. these tires are the same dia. as the original, so it does look different. 16" for 3/4 , ton had 17" and 1 1/2 ton had 20" all with the same fenders
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Looking at this picture of a very nice 1941 Ford Pick-Up, I was wondering if it has the correct Front Fenders for a Pick-Up?
Or, are the Fenders off the next size up 1941 Ford Truck?
It just seems that the Wheel Openings are too large for this vehicle.
What do others think?

The photo is of a 3/4 ton flatbed and it appears from the photos to be a factory one based on the rear fenders that have a notch in them to accommodate the flatbed supports. And as such the front fenders are correct. They have the 3/4 ton and up headlights mounted on top of the fenders and not recessed into the fenders like a 1/2 ton pickup. Also the hood on a 3/4 ton and up truck is different from a 1/2 ton p/u as well.
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Old 01-15-2021, 06:29 PM   #32
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They come in all sizes - Military 1941 Ford Open Cab Truck on display at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra.
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Old 01-17-2021, 12:50 AM   #33
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This Thread is entitled - Australian 1940-1941 Ford Open Cab Pick-Ups. It seems that Australia was unique in building these Open Cab Pick-Ups. I know that this Forum is for Fords but I thought that Readers would be interested in knowing that Fords wee not the only Make that was asked to build Open Cap Pick-Ups. Pictured above is an Australian built 1941 Pontiac Open Cab Pick-Up. This is not a one off, as I have pictures of other rotting in old country Wrecking Yards of old. It seems that the Australia Government must have requested these different Manufacturers to build Open Cab Pick-Ups.
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Old 01-17-2021, 11:51 AM   #34
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It would appear that the truck shown in pix 32 is a 4x, the emblem attached to the side of the hood appears to be very similar to the Marmon-Harrington U.S. 4x conversions.
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That big 4x4 is way beyond COOL! I'd love to find a 40-41 big truck front clip.
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Old 01-17-2021, 12:28 PM   #36
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They come in all sizes - Military 1941 Ford Open Cab Truck on display at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra.
In the book "Ford Trucks since 1905" page 212 shows a similar truck called an Australian artillery tractor. There is also a 39 one. They were said to have "roadster" tops.
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Old 01-17-2021, 05:03 PM   #37
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Specifications on that 1941 Ford Marmon-Herrington Artillery Tractor as shown in Post 32.
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Old 01-18-2021, 05:10 PM   #38
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Here is a picture of that 1941 Ford Open Cab Marmon-Herrington towing an early trailer before the truck was put on display at the Australian War Memorial.
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Old 01-18-2021, 09:16 PM   #39
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I still think that a lot of people can't tell the differences between the 1940 and 1941 Ford Truck line. These pictures are of the covers of the original Sales Brochures for these two years. The most obvious difference is the thick added Trim Piece on the Hood that extends down into the Grille. What is less obvious in these pictures is that there is a "V8" symbol pressed into each side of the Hood on the 1940 model. As a new 6 cylinder Flathead Engine was introduced for the 1941 model year, so buyers had a choice of a 6 or a V8, Ford chose simply to delete this pressing on the updated 1941 models, as other wise, they would have had to offer two different Hoods. So, next time you see a 1940-1941 Ford Pick-Up or Truck, you will be able to correctly identify it as a 1940 model or a 1941 model.
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Mercman, thanks for another informative, enjoyable journey; love the truck pictures.
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