32 Duolamps

[3W Hank]

I heard of a set of NOS 32 rear lights but they was appart when I saw them.
I was amazed what nice they was and thought ; could this be.
Price was decent but expensive for new made productions.
Seller said it was std 32 and noone can deny that. And one side is for licenplate the other non.
If glass was repro, Ok, and glass was perfect.
Second opionion told me this is repros as 32 should had no chamfer holes in the bezels and text was wrong placed.
Seller told me that many times its can be varitiations on parts.
Me, I’m not expert, just like to know the history ( and learn )
Shore I hope they might be 32 std and on my car it will not be no good to use repros even if it a is a hotrod.
This is just a personal feeling/idea.
I feel I must be real lucky find them in that shape even if they need work.

-Ideas ?

[DavidG]

Hard to tell for sure about the lamp housings without photos of their insides. The rim is Model A and again post '32 as the holes in the the '32 rims were not countersunk.


No original '32 housings were made without an opening for the license plate lens. An extremely rare housing without the license plate lamp lens opening was released for use in Denmark, Switzerland, and Japan on '33-'34s as local lighting requirements still demanded two separate bulbs, not a single bulb with two separate filaments. They do no have Duolamp stamped into the housings and they did not have integral square nuts on the inside for attachment to a '32 tail lamp bracket. Rather they are attched with screws into the nuts integral in '33-'34 tail lamp brackets. As a result, the back of the lamp housing overlaps the face of the bracket.


The convex red lens is consistent with the requirements of a few U.S. states. Most original '32 lenses were flat.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

I heard of a set of NOS 32 rear lights but they was appart when I saw them.
I was amazed what nice they was and thought ; could this be.
Price was decent but expensive for new made productions.
Seller said it was std 32 and noone can deny that. And one side is for licenplate the other non.
If glass was repro, Ok, and glass was perfect.
Second opionion told me this is repros as 32 should had no chamfer holes in the bezels and text was wrong placed.
Seller told me that many times its can be varitiations on parts.
Me, I’m not expert, just like to know the history ( and learn )
Shore I hope they might be 32 std and on my car it will not be no good to use repros even if it a is a hotrod.
This is just a personal feeling/idea.
I feel I must be real lucky find them in that shape even if they need work.

-Ideas ?

[deuce lover]

He asked me personally and I told him they are 30,31 buckets. NOS? The attachment nuts in the buckets are missing also.
On 32's the Duolamp is stamped on the lic light side.
Since I did not have an example of an original 32 tail light I sent this link to one for sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276153110988

[3W Hank]

Idea on this car is to use 32 parts as I go some extra miles, even if a hotrod.
Nice thing one learn as one go.
I’m not that keen to use repro A-Ford lights ( if this are that )
If 32’s never had bucket less lic lamp it cant be std if I get it correct.
I could use later style ( originals ) but not repro.
I had std 39 lights but was like the idea of use std lights.
Thats my idea of how I like the parts.
I will show picture of the inside buckets.
Glass is pretty straight but can be as curved.
Nice condition, maybe repros.

[nickthebandit]

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Way back in the early 1970's, when we had "The Ford Store" in Manchester, Connecticut, My partner Russ Schaller( RIP) and I were instrumental in convincing Al Lepore, ( A & L Parts ) to make right side taillight buckets for model A, and 1932 Fords. Al did make the right side taillight buckets as well as drivers side taillight buckets. A & L Parts were always top quality, and they sold well.

[deuce lover]

I remember him selling the flat lenses and very reasonable.Then in about 2006 on Ebay 2 lots of 80 flat lenses in each turned up.There were light and dark ones.I bought tnem all. Have 1 left as a souvenir.

[3W Hank]

Today I did look at a big collection of 32 rear lights.
The duolamp text was as on the ebay add showed light.
Front bezel had a straight not chamfer hole as my, then it was welded-in nuts in the cup.
I can’t say whats is here, but maybe cup is old 30/31 or 33/34 but maybe repro and bezel is not 32.
In the collection it was a light as 32 std but no lic light.
I found a document mention this.

If you look at the picture the cup I has, the one lic light has a small hole, is that for a snapring maybe ?
The collection showed several glass, the flat dark red one had all text on, and my glass look China compared ( no ’sting’ in glass or design )

Seller told me its all 32 parts but glass might be not be the same as to many manufactors.
Me I’m just i to the history and if a ’repro’ I cant use it.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

Today I did look at a collectiion of 32 lights.
Text was as on the ebay showed.
Front bezel had a straight not chamfer hole, then it was welded in nut in cup.
I cant say whats is here but maybe cup is old 30/31 or 33/34 but maybe repro and bezel is not 32.
In the collection it was a light as 32 std but no lic light.
If you look at the picture the cup I has one the lic light has a small hole, is that for a snapring maybe.
The colection showed several glass, the dark red one flat had all text on, and my look China compared ( no ’sting’ in glass or design )

Seller told me its all 32 parts but glass might be not be the ssme as to many manufactors.
Me I’m just i to the history and if a ’repro’ I cant use it.

[3W Hank]

Inside

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

Inside

[3W Hank]

Found this, 3 styles.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

Found this, 3 styles.

[DavidG]

As both are missing the inner shelf that separates the light from the two bulbs as well as the square threaded nuts that are spun on to the housing to retain the inner shelf, I'd describe them as incomplete reproductions.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by DavidG

As both are missing the inner shelf that separates the light from the two bulbs as well as the square threaded nuts that are spun on to the housing to retain the inner shelf, I'd describe them as incomplete reproductions.

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[3W Hank]

I has the innerparts etc.
But I’m sceptical this is std in any year.
If 32’s never came clised cup, well I guess my serach needs go on.
Expensive stuff usless ( vompsre to new repro )
Good thing, its learning by doing or asking !

[3W Hank]

Here is what I has for inside plus some electrics.

So the contex is ;
Glass is new repro and not flat, no text.
Bezels, repro or truck ex 1935 with conical holes.
Inside has wrong nuts.
Clips ? ( as one cup has a hole for clips )
Cups is not old, its repro.
( seller said back of the cups show its old as repro has another design )
So in big picture, non of this stuff is 1932 and beside that at 32 no closed cup was aviable as that is a thing from the 70’s repro market ( and newer )
-Did I got it correct ?

[DavidG]

You have just presented more information confirming that you have two unassembled reproduction lamps as those nuts are not the kind that are spun into permanent position in the lamp housing.


They look like very well made reproductions, but they are not original '32 tail lamp housings. Revisit the overpriced ebay lamp housing in deucelover's post in #4 above and note the permanently-attached nuts.



Also note that Ford did not provide the individual pieces in your photos as service parts, only as complete housings.

[Karl Wescott]

The rim with countersunk holes and the convex lens is what I have seen on 1935-36 pickups, and with research believe was used 1933-41+ pickup and 1933-40 station wagons. This is the style of rim and lens that Snyder's supplied when they marketed 1932 taillights (Their 1929-31 taillights are still the best repro's I have seen).


1929-31 Model A used round head screws to attach the rim similar to or the same as 1932.



The bucket with the duo-lamp stamped opposite the license lens could be 1929-31. A plain steel bucket similar to the 1929-31 would have been used on pickup 1932-41 and station wagon 1932-40 (which had the license plate under the lamp).

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by 3W Hank

Here is what I has for inside plus some electrics.

So the contex is ;
Glass is new repro and not flat, no text.
Bezels, repro or truck ex 1935 with conical holes.
Inside has wrong nuts.
Clips ? ( as one cup has a hole for clips )
Cups is not old, its repro.
( seller said back of the cups show its old as repro has another design )
So in big picture, non of this stuff is 1932 and beside that at 32 no closed cup was aviable as that is a thing from the 70’s repro market ( and newer )
-Did I got it correct ?