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Old 02-12-2019, 02:02 PM   #21
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That's an interesting relay, I had never seen one. This is the arrangement I use.
Very ingenious but probably a little bit of overkill

The solenoids you are using will draw more current than a 6 Volt relay and may get quite warm after being on for some time JMHO
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Very ingenious but probably a little bit of overkill

The solenoids you are using will draw more current than a 6 Volt relay and may get quite warm after being on for some time JMHO
That depends on the solenoids, these are constant service solenoids. They are designed to run with a contestant load on them, they are not the starter solenoids you are accustom to seeing (they just look similar).
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That depends on the solenoids, these are constant service solenoids. They are designed to run with a contestant load on them, they are not the starter solenoids you are accustom to seeing (they just look similar).
I stand corrected my bad

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I will repeat this for those who don''t seem to understand what I'm saying. The incandescent sealed beams that are currently in my '51 are just fine.They provide a good white light that is sufficient for nighttime driving. I believe that this is because this is a good original car and the wiring and grounds are in good shape. I am not looking for brighter lights; I am looking for longer life and decreased load on my electrical system.

All of this talk about solenoids etc. is just looking for band-aids for people who don't maintain their cars properly.
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All of this talk about solenoids etc. is just looking for band-aids for people who don't maintain their cars properly.
I was with you Tubman until you get to this line. I totally disagree with that statement. Take a good look at just about any newer car, all most everything is controlled by solenoids. I understand you can get bright lights with the original direct wiring if everything is in top shape. And also understand you are looking for something like LED headlights for lower current draw. Several folks are keeping your post alive and up at the top of the stack to see if there is any inputs on that topic. I maintain my cars/trucks properly and I use solenoids and relays a lot!
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All of this talk about solenoids etc. is just looking for band-aids for people who don't maintain their cars properly.
I also maintain my vehicles properly and have fitted a relay to minimise the stress on the headlight switch contacts by the current needed to supply the headlights as well as maximise the light output from my headlights for safer driving. It is by no means a "band-aid".
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Sorry to revive an old thread - but one of the things I've been looking into is finding a led replacement for H6006 sealed beams (when I acquired my Town Sedan, it already had those in place of the original headlights).

Anyways - in case this helps someone, I came across these today:

"7" round 6 volt high/low beam crystal clear H4 conversion 3rd Generation LED headlight. Includes one 6v 3rd Gen LED Xenon 6500k super white led bulb...The GEN 3 LED conversion kits from Octane Lighting have the driver built in to the bulb, which means there are no external parts to mount or plug in, just replace your old halogen bulbs with the new ones and plug them in like the originals.

cost: $49.95 per headlight
For $100, I might give this a try
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Old 08-17-2020, 07:01 PM   #28
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The light they throw looks pretty good; the looks of the units themselves, not so much.
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Man, I never go out after dark anymore, guess I don't have to worry about this one.
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Old 08-18-2020, 02:00 AM   #30
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Are headlight relays no longer available for 6 volt cars?
They would be cheaper than having a relay for dim and another for bright.
If you reach under the dash and touch the back of any headlight switch, that is on the dash, you will see, or feel, that it gets hot.
With a headlight relay they stay a lot cooler. And the lights are brighter.
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The light they throw looks pretty good; the looks of the units themselves, not so much.

yeah - I don't like the "modern" look of that glass...but taking a second peek at their website, it appears they have a more traditional look available as well
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I will repeat this for those who don''t seem to understand what I'm saying. The incandescent sealed beams that are currently in my '51 are just fine.They provide a good white light that is sufficient for nighttime driving. I believe that this is because this is a good original car and the wiring and grounds are in good shape. I am not looking for brighter lights; I am looking for longer life and decreased load on my electrical system.

All of this talk about solenoids etc. is just looking for band-aids for people who don't maintain their cars properly.

I did my LED replacements based on reduced load:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...22#post1796222

I just converted my 4" fog lights to LED too. So if I want I can run the headlights and fog lights at the same time and not over stress the generator.

Less draw, so no need for relays. Then if you want to put it back to original, real easy.
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Just to confirm the statements above, after being sure that you have good ground connections, the single best thing you can do with your headlights is to install relays. This ensures that you will get the maximum voltage available to the light source and also reduce the stress on your wiring/light switch.

I have just fitted a vintage dual 6V relay and semi-sealed beams to my '41 Coupe. With slightly higher wattage Quartz Halogen bulbs the resulted performance is fantastic i.e. it's like driving a new car, no more dim yellow glow for me .

Here's a link to one the same as I used.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NORS-Dual-H...item56bfd47d35
What the heck are "semi sealed beams"? Inquiring minds want to know. LOL
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yeah - I don't like the "modern" look of that glass...but taking a second peek at their website, it appears they have a more traditional look available as well
That's more like it!
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I did my LED replacements based on reduced load:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...22#post1796222

I just converted my 4" fog lights to LED too. So if I want I can run the headlights and fog lights at the same time and not over stress the generator.

Less draw, so no need for relays. Then if you want to put it back to original, real easy.

Thank you - just took a look at your thread - it's nice to have other choices, and it looks like the bulbs you chose have MUCH lower current draw than what Octane Lighting sells. I think I'm sold!
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Thank you - just took a look at your thread - it's nice to have other choices, and it looks like the bulbs you chose have MUCH lower current draw than what Octane Lighting sells. I think I'm sold!
Let me know if you have any questions.
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What the heck are "semi sealed beams"? Inquiring minds want to know. LOL
Semi-sealed beams are headlights effectively the same as a sealed beam unit, but with the ability to replace the bulb without having to replace the complete beam unit allowing you to fit different bulb options. I am currently running these in my '41, '42 and '53 Fords with Quartz Halogen bulbs.

These are easier to obtain for country's like New Zealand where we drive on the left side of the road.

The ones I have installed, with relays, give lights comparable to or better than some modern 12V systems.
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Got them today - and WOW, what a difference!
Much brighter, and about 1/4 the current draw.

Thank you Merc Cruzer (also - got your message - the taillights were swapped out to LED a few years ago - that helped quite a bit on both the brightness and current draw as well)
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Semi-sealed beams are headlights effectively the same as a sealed beam unit, but with the ability to replace the bulb without having to replace the complete beam unit allowing you to fit different bulb options. I am currently running these in my '41, '42 and '53 Fords with Quartz Halogen bulbs.

These are easier to obtain for country's like New Zealand where we drive on the left side of the road.

The ones I have installed, with relays, give lights comparable to or better than some modern 12V systems.
Thanks. Regular old sealed beams are fine for the speeds we should be driving these old cars.
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