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Old 04-02-2012, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default 1932 Ford Made in France

Hello group. I'm a new guy and would like to ask if anyone has any information about French built '32 Fords. I did find some basic info on line about the manufacturing agreement Ford had with a French company to build the cars but I'm looking more for info like if they are desired here in the states more or less then US built cars? How are they different from US made cars? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Lou
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:30 PM   #2
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The differences between the '32 Fords built by Ford of France and those built by Ford in North America were minor (lamps, horn, and paint colors). There were fewer body type offerings, however.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:51 PM   #3
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Didn't foreign built Fords have signal lamps on the front fenders??
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:26 AM   #4
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Didn't foreign built Fords have signal lamps on the front fenders??
No. Different countries throughout the world sometimes had differing lighting laws for vehicles. In Australia in the Model A & early V8 era,tailamps in some states had to be a certain distance from the bumper so different long lamp mounts were fitted. In Argentina, some areas required parking lamps on the front fenders or cowl lamps fitted to all cars [ commercial as well] because parking lamps had to be separate from the headlamps. In Europe some countries required separate parking lamps on the front 'mudguards' & 'trafficators' [ flip out arm indicators] were often fitted to the windshield posts near the cowl on cars in Scandinavia & Germany for example. Here in New Zealand, car lamp laws were the same as in the US.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:04 AM   #5
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Having lived in France in the early '90's I observed that the 2 & 4 dr sedans bodies were a bit different in design from the USA models.Front doors opened from the front.Bodies had their doors lined with wood and the subrails were of wood like the Australian open car bodies.Those sedans in my opinion weren't as attractive as the USA sedans.The dashes had open glove boxes on both ends and deeper inset,Firewalls and dash tunnel same as USA models.The Victoria's,phaetons, 3 window,roadsters & cabriolet bodies were pretty much the same as the USA models.Never saw a 5W while I was there.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:22 AM   #6
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Deuce Lover, the sedans you saw would appear to be Ford Dagenham [ England] Briggs built, which they exported to various European countries. The US bodywork coupes, roadsters etc. were also available, as they were in England. They would often have been fitted with 'small bore' engines as there were expensive horse power taxes in Europe in that era.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:21 AM   #7
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Sheldon/Tudortomnz,

You're right, I had a senior moment and forgot about the Briggs-Dagenham 2 and 4 door saloons, which I did cover fairly well in the book. Shame on me; sorry.

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Old 04-03-2012, 02:41 PM   #8
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The firewall is the same, but the body is getting 2" wider in each side starting at the firewall, but the chassis was the same

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Old 04-03-2012, 05:15 PM   #9
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Thanks to all of you who responded to my question about French built '32 Fords. So, I've learned that the French built cars are 2" wider from the cowl/firewall back but the chassis is the same as US built cars. And, that the doors on a Tudor hinge at the rear. Lighting may be different country to country and that the English built cars have more wood in their construction then the US built cars. How about the French built cars? Same amount of wood as those cars built in England? Does anyone know if they fit the V8 and the 4 cyl in their cars? I assume mostly, if not all cars had the 4 cyl because of the taxes in place.
Devilswillys, is that a British built car or a French built car? Great looking car!
Thanks again... Lou
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:53 PM   #10
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Only the 2 and 4-door bodies are wider than their U.S. counterparts. All other bodies are the same in all respects (as they were imported either in knocked-down (KD), slightly knocked-down (SKD), or completely knocked-down (CKD) from the U.S. or Canada). There were no factory French-built '32 Ford bodies in the manufacturing sense. The 2 and 4 door "saloon" bodies on '32 Ford chassis sold in France were manufactured in England (but likely at least partially assembled in France, just like the bodies imported from the U.S. and Canada).

The taxes were much more stringent in the U.K. than elsewhere in Europe, but the V-8 engine was available with all body types in both England and France,
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:25 PM   #11
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i'm french so i know the subject . the body is different , doors are suicide an trims are different . The frame were stamped "made in germany" . the body is asssembled on wood frame ( the body panel were stamped in britany) , the body where hand assembled an fully filled with stain ! I saw 3 differents inners doors assembly .
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:18 PM   #12
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Bob,

You state the "the body" but it muddies the water when it only applies to 2 and 4-door saloons. Ford France also sold cabriolets and deluxe coupes (3-windows) and those bodies are not "different".

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Their is some information on Ford SAF on, wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_France
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:45 PM   #14
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I have a 1932 Ford hood from France it has the extra stamped reveal surronding the louvers like Model "A" hoods have...I put it on my 1932 Victoria...I think i bought it many years ago from you Sheldon?
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:40 AM   #15
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Yes you got that from me.I also had several dashes.
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:56 AM   #16
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only the tudor and fordor sedans where local built . other body are imported ( from canada ?) The engines are 4 or V8 .
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:16 AM   #17
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Here is the information on the plate attached to the firewall:
Societe Anonyme Francase
225 qua1auluagnier, asnleres
Type AN
# ...
Moteur # 5......

I'm pretty sure I didn't copy the spelling correctly on the first 2 lines. Can anyone identify if this car was manufactured in France or was it from England and assembled in France or what it's true origin is?
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:11 AM   #18
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the 2 lines are correct , the french assembly plant was 225 quai aulagnier , and the city is asnières near paris .
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:26 AM   #19
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Type AN was a 4cyl. There were 2 types of 4cyl .A 12CV and 19 CV.The 12 CV were basically Model A's.In 32 the larger 19CV was introduced.CV is the HP rating.More CV = more tax.For the V8 the plaque began with V8 18.

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Old 04-05-2012, 11:34 AM   #20
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Bob,
You noted "assembly" plant was... Where would the body have been built? England, Germany or France? I'm finding this very interesting and would like to know what I can about these cars. Thanks
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