28 CCPU drip rail finishing

[wrndln]

Dudley,
Since the filler strip is not made correctly, who knows if it is right side up or upside down. Since Dan posted the picture, I think he put it in the proper way. He has checked into the rain gutter situation a fair amount and probably knows, I sure don't.
Rusty Nelson

[JTW]

I can't seem to take a picture that isn't fuzzy today, but these are of an original CCPU drip rail with original paint. You have to turn the third picture as it is sideways. There are #10 3/4" nails in the drip rail, with a screw at each end. The cover strip has a groove at the top and bottom and they mate with the shape (folds) of the drip rail, I would say that this strip was slid in from one end after the drip rail was fastened in place but that is a guess as it could have also been slide up under the top part of the rail and then snapped in to the bottom part with a long block of wood/jig and hammered. The ends of this cover strip project out 1/2" beyond the drip rail, at each end. It has a 1" nail with a small dome head in the center of this 1/2" projection.

[wrndln]

JTW,
I would love to see some pictures of your original drip moldings. The pictures are very blurry and I can't really tell what they look like. The ends would be very nice to see. I have found that if you use a higher resolution setting - at least 3M pixels, Then you can move back to 2 feet or so and take non-blurry pictures, Then with the higher resolution picture, you can use a photo editor, like Picasa (free download) and enlarge the pictures to see good detail.
Rusty Nelson

[Tom Wesenberg]

JTW,
Try holding a neutral colored paper tight behind the moulding so the camera doesn't focus on the distant object. Also you might have to back the camera up a hair. My HP camera will focus as close as 2", but my Olympus won't focus closer than 6".
TJW

[pooch]

JTW, can you advise exact length of drip rail and exact length of filler strip.

At least this will give us something to go on re the crap repro items.

[JTW]

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I think one of the problems is that my camera is real old and is failing, I use to be able to get good close ups. Unless I come up with something different this afternoon (have tried 2 different shoots so far today - background, lighting, distance etc.) I will take them to a stationary photo stand and camera that I am able to use, tomorrow.
The length of the rail is 30 11/16". The length of the cover strip is 31 11/16".

[wrndln]

JTW,
Hopefully you can figure out how to take some good pictures. The dimensions help, but some pictures would help even more. Bratton's parts catalog states the gutters are "exact duplicates", but that is a long way from being true. Obviously they didn't ever try to install a pair. There are several problems with the repro gutters and filler strips. It would be great to find some original gutters and filler strips, but alais, that is probably like finding hens teeth! That means using repro gutters and maybe reworking them to fit and look right. Since some company already makes the ill-fitting gutters - probably Vintigue, I doubt anyone else will make gutters that are correct - to bad.
Rusty Nelson

[JTW]

These are slightly better. The first 3 are evident, the 4th shows the back of the drip rail, the the 5th the bottom of the drip rail. Maybe it is time to take them apart and glass bead them to see the true shape clearly. Might take a few days.

[pooch]

Thanks for size and pics JTW.

This helps heaps for a few of us trying to resurrect a CCPU.

[Dan Partain]

Jeff,
Thanks for the photos, they're great. That helps.
-DAN

[wrndln]

JTW,
The pictures are much better - thanks. I kind of hate to ask for more, since you have been so kind as to post the pictures you have, but if you do bead or sandblast the trim pieces, it would be nice to see the "clean" gutters to try to understand more detail on them. I think some of us are trying to understand how the filler strip fastens to the gutter. The repro gutter/fillers appear deficient in this respect. I believe the top flange is bent down much more than on the repro and there must be a slight "notch or groove" in the lower part of the gutter to retain the filler. Is this right? I think it is pretty rare to have original CCPU gutters still on a pickup after 85 years, so count yourself lucky.
Rusty Nelson

[Steve Plucker]

Should be interesting to see if the "inside" was painted first before assembly.

Pluck

[Marco Tahtaras]

Originally Posted by Steve Plucker

Should be interesting to see if the "inside" was painted first before assembly.

Pluck

As with most mouldings, both parts were painted (probably dipped) in black enamel when manufactured.

[Dan Partain]

Yes, the finish strip drawing designates "Black enamel 2 coats." I think it's safe to assume the drip rail has the same designation.
-DAN

[d.j. moordigian]

Found this in Snyder's AA section...said it fits 28-31Truck(really?).....$115.00
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...........http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/se...301-AA&x=0&y=0....
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[wrndln]

The Snyder's gutters would probably work, but certainly not like the originals were.
Rusty Nelson

[wrndln]

About month ago I was ordering some parts from Bratton's. After ordering the parts, I mentioned the repro CCPU rain gutters not being even close to originals to the fellow taking the order. He said "Do you want to speak with Walt". I said yes. I told Walt the rain gutters were NOT exact copies of the original rain gutter for 28 - mid 30 pickups and AA trucks like the description in his catalog. He acted a little surprised when I told him of the several things that were not like the originals, including the slide in part being too short and the shape of the main piece being incorrectly formed. I don't know if he will change the description or do anything about them. I can't do much more than explain that they are not made correctly.
Rusty Nelson

[Joe K]

He acted a little surprised when I told him of the several things that were not like the originals, including the slide in part being too short and the shape of the main piece being incorrectly formed.

Too bad if he might not be referred to this line of discussion? Pretty much anything he might want to show to a supplier he could learn here.

Those aluminum channels I have on my truck are looking pretty feeble these days.

But that is all there was in 1978.

Joe K