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03-05-2022, 09:41 AM | #1 |
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03-05-2022, 11:09 AM | #2 |
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Who do you think was behind the push to go to Ethanol? The corn growers wanted more money for their corn. The Federal government did not tell everyone the amount of pollution that was being generated in converting corn to Ethanol. MN blocked a big Ethanol plant in SE MN because of the pollution to the stream there. Ethanol is bad. Glad someone is putting out this correct information, but what will the effect be? Too much money involved and government cannot or will not admit they were wrong.
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03-05-2022, 11:26 AM | #3 |
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FWIW, Henry Ford wanted cars to run on ethanol. He was all for supporting the farmer over the oil companies.
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03-05-2022, 12:35 PM | #4 | |
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03-05-2022, 12:53 PM | #5 |
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I’ll continue to use ethanol gas. I have more friends that are farmers than friends that are oil tycoons
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03-05-2022, 12:57 PM | #6 |
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03-05-2022, 01:06 PM | #7 |
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Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey v. United States (1911)
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03-05-2022, 01:32 PM | #8 |
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My choice is non-ethanol gas. It seems that the ethanol destroys the fuel systems in older cars and motorcycles. I never had problems with regular gasoline.....
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03-05-2022, 01:59 PM | #9 |
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Here in Missouri the only way that I'm aware of to purchase gasoline without ethanol is to purchase premium gasoline
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03-05-2022, 02:04 PM | #10 |
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Been using Ethanol for years without issues, will continue to use it.
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03-05-2022, 03:05 PM | #11 |
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I will tell you that ethanol gas wreaks havoc with powered tools. Generators, chain saws, anything non-diesel does not stand up well with ethanol gas. Vehicles were another story because they were designed to use it. But we ran pure gas straight thru. Wife has a T’Bird and we run 100% gas in it. Used to be that ethanol worked very negatively on tank sealers. I think POR says ethanol ok with theirs…..dunno Last edited by Oldbluoval; 03-05-2022 at 03:50 PM. |
03-05-2022, 04:17 PM | #12 |
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Non-Ethanol goes in my small engines [ which around here is usually 90/91 octane ]. That fuel once old/stale [ and usually with oil in it] at the end of a season or two goes in the 'A'. Depending on what is inside the carburetor depends on whether it'll like it or not. If a steel needle is used these carburetors don't care. Thru-out the season it gets the cheap stuff. There is no such thing as cheap gas anymore though is there.
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03-05-2022, 04:30 PM | #13 |
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Today in Phoenix. Notice, it’s a cash price.
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03-05-2022, 05:33 PM | #14 |
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Yep, its coming. But I won't say who I thank for it. Today I filled the truck at $3.79, but, the way its going up daily, $4.50 shouldn't be far away here.
I'm still a firm believer than corn belongs in our food supply, not part of the food supply of an engine. Some have said I'm anti-farmer for such a statement. Not at all, I still live in farm country and am as pro-farm as anyone. There is no problem selling corn. Last edited by Patrick L.; 03-05-2022 at 07:23 PM. |
03-05-2022, 06:54 PM | #15 | |
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More money and more wrong = battery power! Realistically fossil fuels are becoming harder (expensive) to extract, bio-fuels are also expensive if self sustainable, solar won't satisfy our demand, and hydro is not good for the fishes. Short of fusion power we will have to figure out how to use less and enjoy more. Any alcohol based fuel, or additive, acts slightly as an acid and an electrolyte and a polar solvent. Rough on aluminum, dis-similar metals and many rubbers/plastics. "Pure" gasoline, LOL. "Gasoline" was a trademark (Standard Oil?) blend of mostly alkane distallates. A lot of hexane with some octane and otheranes. There also was a Zerolene and of course Kerosene. |
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03-06-2022, 09:15 PM | #16 |
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Moonshine Is lousy gas, only use non eth for mowers and flatheads. Pickup tractors digger has been diesel, just have to be selective about travel for now.
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03-07-2022, 09:44 AM | #17 |
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It's easy to blame "farmers" as a whole for some of the subsidies plus the use of plant based materials to make ethanol for motor fuel additive. The EPA wanted to go to E85 back when they first started to use more ethanol in the mix. They had to convince the world that man is indeed changing the climate. For every scientist that says man has a large effect on climate change, there is likely a scientist that can debunk the climate models they use to come to that conclusion.
The only "farmers" that have the money to lobby congress are the large corporate agricultural consortiums so don't blame all the mom and pop farmers for this stuff. They are at the mercy of the commodities market & middle men of the agribusiness system of the USA. If corn prices get too high it affects the price of beef, chicken, and pork as well. You can blame the government and the big corporations but don't throw small business farmers into that pile for they have very little sway in the matter. The government should never have messed with food source materials to make non food materials if there are non food source materials that will do the same thing. The next major discovery will be a way to contain and convert anti-matter into energy. Until man can figure that out, we are stuck with fossil fuels whether the government likes it or not. Last edited by rotorwrench; 03-07-2022 at 09:51 AM. |
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03-07-2022, 12:07 PM | #19 |
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My Redmax Dealer will void your warranty if you use lower octane, they say the ethanol does wreak havoc on Landscaping equipment.
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03-07-2022, 12:30 PM | #20 |
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