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Old 07-30-2017, 07:54 PM   #1
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Cool Plug jammed in tie rod end.

I was working on my tie rod ends today for final assembly. Everything has been taken apart, stripped, sandblasted, tapped, and painted. The rt. side went together with out any problem and the cotter pin will slip right in. But on the lt. side the end plug is tight but it's about 1/8" out from where the cotter pin goes in to lock it. any ideas? I'll be tearing it down to see what's up.

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Old 07-30-2017, 08:00 PM   #2
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Yes John, you have the plugs in backwards. Try swapping them around.
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Default Re: Plug jammed in tie rod end.

Or you got a booger in the threads
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Old 07-31-2017, 12:50 AM   #4
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Yes John, you have the plugs in backwards. Try swapping them around.
? I thought the plugs are all standard thread?
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? I thought the plugs are all standard thread?
The end plugs are all the same, but the plug cups are different and I believe it is possible to place the wrong length in first which will make the end plug not seat all the way.
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:48 AM   #6
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If it's the drag link, some parts on them are different, end to end & are loaded different.
One supplier catalogs shows an exploded view of the internals. There's a difference in the cups back inside it.
There was a pic here once---Search "DRAG LINK"
"Maybe" you have some DRAG LINK part in the TIE ROD end?????---"SEEMS" I remember that you sometimes have a SHALLOW cup leftover????--"Maybe" it's IN that end & won't let the plug screw in fully???
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:36 AM   #7
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Plugs should be fine. If you are using steer eye kit the steering arm draped link plug may be different to accept the end cup teflon.

I suggest you take out the steering arm from the tie rod end and try out just rhecolug. I suspect you have a thread issue. If so you may best be served by using another tie rod end.
Must if the time the problem. Is in the end as they get bashed and the get tight.

Make sure you plug ends are fitting properly and all you insert cups steel or teflon whatever you are using
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Default Re: Plug jammed in tie rod end.

Thanks for the input guys. I'll take it apart tonight and see what's up. I'm using the original style of hardware.

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Old 07-31-2017, 07:55 AM   #9
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Default Re: Plug jammed in tie rod end.

I bought a set to rebuild my rods from Snyder and found this same problem. It was suggested to me that Snyders springs maybe were too stiff. My mentor looked at the cups and said all was right. I took the new out and put the old springs in and they worked fine???
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:12 PM   #10
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Default Re: Plug jammed in tie rod end.

I found, when taking apart a recently rebuilt tie rod to scavenge parts for mine, that the plugs in the recently rebuilt tie rod had a 1/8" shoulder on the leading edge before the threads began. Not only that, the new springs were 1/8" longer than the original parts in the old tie rod. I had the same problem with not being able to put all the parts together. I used the old springs and plugs and all was well. The original plugs had no shoulder, the threads went right to the end...

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Old 08-03-2017, 06:34 PM   #11
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Default Re: Plug jammed in tie rod end.

Thanks Guys. I took it apart the other night and found that the threads where hung up. cleaned everything up and it went together just fine. JP
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