Model A Fords and Ford 2.0 and 2.3 engines

[aaron griffey]

The years after '67 all SAAB cars had the V4. Including the 2 door sedans and station wagons.
I put a Pinto 2 liter motor, 4 speed trans and sedan rear end (about 3.78) in a '29 Nah. It is about like a model A 4 door sedan. Like the heaviest ones.
I mostly run in 3rd gear and after 50 the wind resistance really bogs it down when in 4th.
You need a 4.11 rear end in a light model A like a coupe or roadster to make it drive well.
I also have a hard time getting going from a stop on hills, it's just too fast in first gear because of the rear end. I have 5.50X18 tires too.
I have run it that way 24 years, I would not do it again.
The modern engines take the fun out of driving old cars.

[MikeK]

The thought of a Ford Pinto engine makes my skin crawl, however, the thought of a Ford Cosworth 4 banger makes my blood boil. If I had a Cosworth (keep dreaming!) I would love to put it in a very stock appearing A, but I wouldn't put Cosworth questions 'up' on Fordbarn, and would never sacrifice one of my relatively stock A's.

[Model A Man]

I have given though to a toyota 22r 4 cylinder with 5 speed for my coupe.

[marc hildebrant]

Skip,

I thought that wind force is a cubed function ?

Marc

[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by MikeK

The thought of a Ford Pinto engine makes my skin crawl, however, the thought of a Ford Cosworth 4 banger makes my blood boil. If I had a Cosworth (keep dreaming!) I would love to put it in a very stock appearing A, but I wouldn't put Cosworth questions 'up' on Fordbarn, and would never sacrifice one of my relatively stock A's.

I guess you know it's already been done.........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFSGS...layer_embedded
a bit of hyperbole in the title though.

[hardtimes]

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

I guess you know it's already been done.........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFSGS...layer_embedded
a bit of hyperbole in the title though.

Uncle Bob,
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, everytime I get the 'itch' to do an 'upgrade' on my banger 30 roadster...I watch this exhilerating video! Then I calm down and put on my leather gloves and take the roadster for a demanding run! So, this video has, thus far kept me from substituting the cosworth for the B!

[jerseyboy]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

I guess you know it's already been done.........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFSGS...layer_embedded
a bit of hyperbole in the title though.

Uncle Bob, that is sooooo freakin' cool! Great looking car, great video. Makes me want to "haul wood!"

Thanks for posting the link! FUN, FUN, FUN.

[Purdy Swoft]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

I guess you know it's already been done.........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFSGS...layer_embedded
a bit of hyperbole in the title though.

Thanks uncle Bob, Thats cool as HAIL!!!

[theer]

I have a 1928 model A coupe. Can someone show me a photo of what to look for on replacing rod shims. I have a connecting rod knocking under power. Does not knock until i step on the gas. Just starting happening when the car wormed up.

Also, My 2nd gear in the tranny is load, where can get a rebuild kit fairly Low Cost, as a retired person on a fixed income, you know money is hard to come by.

thank you in advance for your help.

[theer]

Is there a repair documentation free on shimming the rod ?

[160B]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

I guess you know it's already been done.........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFSGS...layer_embedded
a bit of hyperbole in the title though.

here are the sequence photos of construction

http://www.mat.fi/n_index.php?nav=ga...rdmodel-a&g=13

[newshirt]

I vote to keep the forum limited to stock Model A's. That's why I joined. So... No Pintos. No Rangers. No anachronisms.

[denis4x4]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Denis, I don't think that folks here are necessarily bad mouthing y'all with creative juices but asking it on this type of forum is kinda like publicly asking for advice on starting a 'House of Ill Repute' to attendees at the Republican National Party fund raiser!

.

Brent, I think the Secret Service already did that on a presidential trip to Columbia.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

All,
A few comments: A friend built a beautiful OC PICKUP, using mostly repro body parts including a slightly stretched cab so he could fit in it comfortably. He bought several old Model A engines, searching for a good block, finally found one. He was determined to have a stock drive train! Beautiful truck, easily mistaken for a 100% Model A. My hat's off to him for his detemination to build a really great Model A replica! I've heared that some Pinto's have to use a Mitchell overdrive, installed backwards to have an underdrive to get up the hills. I've also heard that some stock Model A's out do them in the mountains as they have cubic inch advantage & low compression lugging power. I'll find out soon when my bone stock '29 is ready for some REAL mountains. Billl W.

[columbiA]

Both my A,s would be banned from Touring Class judging as they both have modified 40 & 46 Columbia OD,s.Done properly,they look like they belong there,yet a Mitchell or Volvo OD is OK? Doesnt matter to me as I prefer to drive my cars rather than show them. Those that think that you cant put 10,000+ miles a year on your car without breaking down have obviously never driven a good car.

[Charlie Stephens]

Originally Posted by kenparker

I am off on a new wild hair. The adapting a 2.3 liter engine (Ford Ranger Pickup) engine into a Model A. I have read and heard that the 2.0 Pinto engine is an easy adapt and the 2.3 is not a good choice due to fit or some other problem. Can someone shed some light on the goood and bads of putting a 2.3 liter engine in a Model A? i have two of the 2.3 liter engines and want something to do with them.

Back to the original question. If I remember correctly the oil filter on the 2.3 interfered with the steering box (or something like that). I think a Chevy II/Mercruiser Marine is a much better choice of engine for several reasons and if you post the question on HAMB (they deal with this kind of thing) you will get a better answer. Of course the best answer is to leave the original engine in there and maybe add a small amount of speed equipment (and that is what I would tell you if posted on HAMB but with a little more detail). Be sure to drive one with a Pinto and talk with the owners, the owner I talked with wasn't very happy plus in my opinion it looked like weird under the hood. On the positive side nothing is cut and you can replace the engine with the correct engine later when you come to your senses.

Charlie Stephens

[sturgis 39]

Buy a Shay Replica and save the Model "A".

[bart78]

I say do what you want with it. It seems there are a few people with some info. Pm them and see what they got to say about it. If I knew anything about the pinto engine I would let you know.

[CarlG]

I didn't like the Pinto engine --- in a Pinto

[Donvito]

Originally Posted by 160B

here are the sequence photos of construction

http://www.mat.fi/n_index.php?nav=ga...rdmodel-a&g=13

That build is awesome. I love it.