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Chris Nelson · 01-16-2016, 11:04 AM

I have had it with carbs that leak and I'm thinking of either putting on a 4 bbl Holley or staying with the 97 theme by using the 9Super7 carb. What I would like to know is if there is any feedback on the 9Super7 carb? Are they any good?

Terry,OH · 01-16-2016, 11:15 AM

Have the 97 rebuilt by Max Musgrove. He refaces the flat surfaces so there are no leaks.

Deuce Man · 01-16-2016, 11:18 AM

Chris, I ran a pair of old chromed 97's on my flathead for 15 years. Never a leak . Only once did something get past my filter and cause my needle valve to stick and flood out. I had these carbs rebuilt by Vintage Speed. Charlie has fixtures to mill all gasket surfaces flat again, uses the proper torque on all screws, and uses more modern parts in the rebuild. There are others who do the same. I struggled rebuilding those old Holleys for years, could never quite get them right. Guess I should have had them done professionally. Rich

keith oh · 01-16-2016, 11:22 AM

Google "9Super7 carb" for much information. Why spend that kind of money when you can send your Stromberg 97s to Max Musgrave for a complete rebuild by the expert for a third the cost, and keep the original? They will not leak and run as they were supposed to.

Chris Nelson · 01-16-2016, 11:51 AM

That is good information. I had not thought about having them rebuilt. They were originally built by Charlie Price of Vintage Speed in Florida. I have left a message for Max to call me. I would like to see what new 97's cost and what rebuilding them so they don't leak costs. Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

Pete · 01-16-2016, 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Nelson

I have had it with carbs that leak and I'm thinking of either putting on a 4 bbl Holley or staying with the 97 theme by using the 9Super7 carb. What I would like to know is if there is any feedback on the 9Super7 carb? Are they any good?

Try Daytona float valves. They never leak and flow more than stock.
http://www.daytonaparts.com/daytona-...oat-valve.html

Adam/Mill Valley CA · 01-17-2016, 09:15 AM

Pete, that's an interesting device which I hadn't seen before. The Viton needle on my 97 kept sticking and I replaced it with a steel needle; so far so good for several thousand miles. Do you have personal experience with the Daytona float valve? Longevity?

Adam

scooder · 01-17-2016, 10:29 AM

Rebuilt Max 97's or New genuine Stromberg 97's also from Max if my memory is right. Those 9super7's are cheap copies, made for profit over quality. The opposite of what the genuine New or rebuilt Max carbs.
If your feed up with leaks, where do you think your money is best spent?
Martin.

Pete · 01-17-2016, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam/Mill Valley CA

Pete, that's an interesting device which I hadn't seen before. The Viton needle on my 97 kept sticking and I replaced it with a steel needle; so far so good for several thousand miles. Do you have personal experience with the Daytona float valve? Longevity?

Adam

I have been using Daytona float valves since the mid 50's.
Another company developed them back then. I don't rermember when Daytona got them.
They normally outlast the mechanical parts of the carb.

Grandadeo · 01-17-2016, 03:17 PM

As I've posted in the past, even my Stromberg 97 coffee cup leaks.

Lee

Lawson Cox · 01-17-2016, 03:24 PM

My 97 coffee cup is so heavy I got carpal tunnel syndrome from using it. LOL

Angledrive · 01-17-2016, 07:34 PM

I have used Daytona carb kits for years. Excellent parts and service. As for rebuilding a 97, Max is number one.

uncle max · 01-17-2016, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

I have been using Daytona float valves since the mid 50's.
Another company developed them back then. I don't rermember when Daytona got them.
They normally outlast the mechanical parts of the carb.

It's just too bad Daytona doesn't make them for 97's.

Pete · 01-17-2016, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle max

It's just too bad Daytona doesn't make them for 97's.

It's too bad they quit. I didn't know that.
Thanks.

Charlie ny · 01-17-2016, 10:05 PM

Chris,
Where is your 97 leaking ? Per chance if the source of the leak/s are at
the 3 plugs under the chin of the bowl I have found in many many cases the nylon
gaskets I use/make will prevent this condition. I've tried cast nylon gaskets but
they seem to be too smooth and too hard. What has worked well for me is to
machine the gaskets from 1/2 dia common nylon round stock. The tooling 'grooves'
on the front and back of the gasket gives the it just enough compression to 'seat'
between the bowl and the plug.
Charlie ny

alchemy · 01-18-2016, 10:56 AM

Get Uncle Max to rebuild those 97's, and have him install his hex-head jet plugs so they can be tightened with a small wrench instead of a screwdriver. Much better in sealing.

I recommend the OP read up on Charlie Price either here on Fordbarn or over on the HAMB. Lots has been said about his work and business practice. You will find it very interesting reading.

russcc · 01-18-2016, 07:16 PM

Both Charlie Schwendler and Max do excellent rebuild work, and you will be happy with either one. I understand that Charlie does some of Max's carb machine work for him.

01-16-2016, 11:04 AM	#1
Chris Nelson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Poulsbo, WA. Posts: 356	Stromber 97 I have had it with carbs that leak and I'm thinking of either putting on a 4 bbl Holley or staying with the 97 theme by using the 9Super7 carb. What I would like to know is if there is any feedback on the 9Super7 carb? Are they any good?

01-16-2016, 11:15 AM	#2
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Stromber 97 Have the 97 rebuilt by Max Musgrove. He refaces the flat surfaces so there are no leaks.

01-16-2016, 11:18 AM	#3
Deuce Man Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Palm City FL> Posts: 556	Re: Stromber 97 Chris, I ran a pair of old chromed 97's on my flathead for 15 years. Never a leak . Only once did something get past my filter and cause my needle valve to stick and flood out. I had these carbs rebuilt by Vintage Speed. Charlie has fixtures to mill all gasket surfaces flat again, uses the proper torque on all screws, and uses more modern parts in the rebuild. There are others who do the same. I struggled rebuilding those old Holleys for years, could never quite get them right. Guess I should have had them done professionally. Rich

01-16-2016, 11:22 AM	#4
keith oh Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Millersport, central ohio Posts: 668	Re: Stromber 97 Google "9Super7 carb" for much information. Why spend that kind of money when you can send your Stromberg 97s to Max Musgrave for a complete rebuild by the expert for a third the cost, and keep the original? They will not leak and run as they were supposed to.

01-16-2016, 11:51 AM	#5
Chris Nelson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Poulsbo, WA. Posts: 356	Re: Stromber 97 That is good information. I had not thought about having them rebuilt. They were originally built by Charlie Price of Vintage Speed in Florida. I have left a message for Max to call me. I would like to see what new 97's cost and what rebuilding them so they don't leak costs. Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

01-17-2016, 09:15 AM	#7
Adam/Mill Valley CA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mill Valley,CA Posts: 275	Re: Stromber 97 Pete, that's an interesting device which I hadn't seen before. The Viton needle on my 97 kept sticking and I replaced it with a steel needle; so far so good for several thousand miles. Do you have personal experience with the Daytona float valve? Longevity? Adam __________________ 1936 pickup, stock, black 1965 Mustang coupe 289/4bbl, black/red 1971 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750 coupe, dark red/tan 1970 911E 2.2 litre dark blue/black 1968 BMW R50/2 US, black (m'cycle) 1967 Triumph TR6R , sea foam/cream (m'cycle) 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 red (m'cycle) 1974 Honda CB750 red (m'cycle) 2000 Kawasaki W650 blue/silver (m'cycle)

01-17-2016, 10:29 AM	#8
scooder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,593	Re: Stromber 97 Rebuilt Max 97's or New genuine Stromberg 97's also from Max if my memory is right. Those 9super7's are cheap copies, made for profit over quality. The opposite of what the genuine New or rebuilt Max carbs. If your feed up with leaks, where do you think your money is best spent? Martin.

01-17-2016, 03:17 PM	#10
Grandadeo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jensen Beach, FL Posts: 565	Re: Stromber 97 As I've posted in the past, even my Stromberg 97 coffee cup leaks. Lee __________________ Salt Is Good... Mk 9:50

01-17-2016, 03:24 PM	#11
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Stromber 97 My 97 coffee cup is so heavy I got carpal tunnel syndrome from using it. LOL __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

01-17-2016, 07:34 PM	#12
Angledrive Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lakeland Florida Posts: 303	Re: Stromber 97 I have used Daytona carb kits for years. Excellent parts and service. As for rebuilding a 97, Max is number one.

01-17-2016, 10:05 PM	#15
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: Stromber 97 Chris, Where is your 97 leaking ? Per chance if the source of the leak/s are at the 3 plugs under the chin of the bowl I have found in many many cases the nylon gaskets I use/make will prevent this condition. I've tried cast nylon gaskets but they seem to be too smooth and too hard. What has worked well for me is to machine the gaskets from 1/2 dia common nylon round stock. The tooling 'grooves' on the front and back of the gasket gives the it just enough compression to 'seat' between the bowl and the plug. Charlie ny

01-18-2016, 10:56 AM	#16
alchemy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: middle of Iowa Posts: 647	Re: Stromber 97 Get Uncle Max to rebuild those 97's, and have him install his hex-head jet plugs so they can be tightened with a small wrench instead of a screwdriver. Much better in sealing. I recommend the OP read up on Charlie Price either here on Fordbarn or over on the HAMB. Lots has been said about his work and business practice. You will find it very interesting reading.

01-18-2016, 07:16 PM	#17
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Stromber 97 Both Charlie Schwendler and Max do excellent rebuild work, and you will be happy with either one. I understand that Charlie does some of Max's carb machine work for him.