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01-04-2017, 09:40 AM | #1 |
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New to the Forum and 1931 Closed cab pickup
Last week I acquired a 1931 Budd cab wide body pickup. My only exposure to a Model A to this point had been when I was in high school back in 69-70 . My Latin teacher ( he was in his 80's, retired and just teaching part time) had a Model A truck that he had purchased new and still had. I got to drive it a couple of times doing yard work for him and since have always thought I would have one. Through the years I have been through all the muscle cars etc. but finally the stars aligned and this one came along. It's very original with some repair and paintwork and somewhere along in its life was converted to hydraulic brakes. I've heard it run and seen it drive but at the point I got it it wouldn't start due to the starter. I took that off and the bendix spring is broken. I have one ordered. I suspect the fellow I got it from tried to start it without retarding the timing?
Anyway, a couple of questions to start.. The truck appears to originally have dual spares. Passenger fender has a patch where there would have been a well. Is that likely? Also, the truck cab is red but the body is black as the fenders. Pictures I have seen of similar trucks the body is always cab color. The body shows no sign of ever being red.. just black over primer. Is this possibly original colors? I'm just in the discovery phase of ownership. I am in hopes to just getting it driving and doing some touch up initially until I come up with a long term plan. It appears to be a very late 31 with the indented firewall and steel roof. The previous owner just got it from a collector who had bought it and kept it in his collection since the early 90's so it's been idle for a while. Any thoughts or suggestions would surely help. Thanks! Mike in Maine |
01-04-2017, 10:03 AM | #2 |
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Re: New to the Forum and 1931 Closed cab pickup
Why not posting a picture of your car ?
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01-04-2017, 10:05 AM | #3 |
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01-04-2017, 11:36 AM | #4 |
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This is a truck !
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01-04-2017, 01:46 PM | #5 |
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01-04-2017, 10:22 AM | #6 |
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01-04-2017, 10:23 AM | #7 |
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Re: New to the Forum and 1931 Closed cab pickup
I uploaded a picture to my album here. I was going to put it with the post but the only option I could see was adding an online link. I don't have any pictures accessible to the web. thanks Mike
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01-04-2017, 10:23 AM | #8 |
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Yes, it is the steel roof.
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01-04-2017, 10:37 AM | #9 |
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Re: New to the Forum and 1931 Closed cab pickup
Welcome welcome. The cab and bed would been the same color from the factory. It would have come with a fender mounted spare on the drivers side. Hard to tell what transitions it went through in it's 85+ years. I have a late 31 WB ST that started as a Telephone company truck. By the time I bought it I found it had gone through at least 4 other owners. It was found in a shed on a farm at an estate sale.
Too bad they can't talk and tell their story. Last edited by foxfire42; 01-04-2017 at 10:44 AM. |
01-04-2017, 10:43 AM | #10 |
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Re: New to the Forum and 1931 Closed cab pickup
Thanks... I was wondering. It has the spare on the drivers side. The passenger side even has the hole in the splash pan for the brace and you can see where the brace attaches to the frame so that's why I wondered if it was possibly original as a dual sidemount on a truck. It has the nickel lights and windshield trim also. It was probably a pretty truck in it's day. Not too bad now for an old fellow! thanks Mike
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01-04-2017, 10:48 AM | #11 |
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01-04-2017, 05:24 PM | #12 |
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Re: New to the Forum and 1931 Closed cab pickup
Welcome to the Forum. Very nice Model A. The Wide bed and Budd cab are more rare than the Narrow Bed. I agree with the above about the Judging Standard. It lets you keep your vehicle as close to what Henry Ford built. Enjoy your "A".
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01-04-2017, 07:53 PM | #13 |
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Hi: See my avatar .....It's a late 31 wide bed steel top Pickup. I bought it in
2012 for my 80th. birthday. It has no interior other than seats so the body can be photoed for your interest if needed. I made the racks myself out of white ash and did a drawing of the them. Email me if I can be of any help. Grant E-mail [email protected] |
01-04-2017, 10:51 AM | #14 |
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I am hoping to track down some more of the history of this one.. It would be fun to know. I will work on it. The grandkids said I should have got a crew cab so they could all go for rides this summer. I wonder if anyone has built one? :-) headed for the garage to play with it some more.. thanks!
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01-04-2017, 11:05 AM | #15 |
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I've seen a crew cab done, but they made it fit an AA truck frame since it was longer than the car frame could handle, but would work for you for a future project. Welcome to the hobby!
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01-04-2017, 01:01 PM | #16 |
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Re: New to the Forum and 1931 Closed cab pickup
Check the passenger side mount carefully as they generally only had one on the drivers side. Having said that I have heard of them coming with dual side mounts. If I bought a commercial vehicle in 1931 with the quality of the tires I would have gotten dual side mounts. FYI I have a '31 roadster pickup, originally the cheap version of yours. Be sure to get a copy of the judging standards from MARC or MAFCA (same standards). They are written mostly towards cars but most of the parts are the same. Post away, there a lot of people here ready to help.
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01-04-2017, 01:45 PM | #17 |
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I think I may have looked at that truck a few years ago.At the time it was owned by a salvage yard,and not for sale.If it is the one it is a put together truck,not an original.Makes no difference to me,it is still an A,and an A is just a big erector set.A truck native to Maine in that condition would be one of the rarest things in the world.Non-original things on it are,the windshield frame,cowl band,radiator shell,and headlights.They are supposed to be black on the trucks.Look at the mounts on the frame for the spare tires.If they are riveted they will most likely be factory,if they are bolted they will be add-ons.
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01-04-2017, 04:02 PM | #18 |
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Here is a truck on a truck AND a Model A
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01-04-2017, 04:05 PM | #19 |
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Forget everything being bigger in Texas. You Aussies take the cake.
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First picture - find the Model A These things are up to about 200 feet long and travel at 100 kph
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