Patch Over a Patch

[30ccpickup]

I have a slow leek in a tube that is over a previous patch. Is there a problem with putting a patch over a patch.

Paul

[Mike V. Florida]

Is it leaking around the old patch or is it a new hole in the ols patch?

[Racur96]

Get the old patch off, clean everything good and re patch it. The old patch will most likely keep moving and loosening up and cause the new one to do the same.

[30ccpickup]

Mike, it is a slow leak (extremely slow) around the edge of the old patch.


Racur96, Thanks

[Kurt in NJ]

Peel the old patch off ---sometimes I used the angle grinder to burn off an old patch ---mostly this is for inner tubes used for "tubing", some of mine have a lot of patches and sometimes an old patch needs replacing,or a row of them for a split I use the grinder to burnish the tube in prep for the patch ----when installing patches look for glue that has "extremely flammable" on the can --and it isn't how much you put on ---too much is bad, paint 1 coat, let it dry totally

A patch over top of a patch has always come with a let down soon thereafter if the under patch is not sound ---if it is leaking around the edge most likely it can be peeled off

[Mike V. Florida]

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Originally Posted by 30ccpickup

Mike, it is a slow leak (extremely slow) around the edge of the old patch.


Racur96, Thanks

YEA like they say above, take it off and replace it.

[harley]

Grandma used to say,"There's no shame in wearing a patch, but it is in wearing a patch on a patch." Same on a tube. Harley

[Logan]

Just replace the tube. Their $15-$18 dollars with a rubber valve stem. It's better than trying to patch an old one up for it to leak again on you.

[J Franklin]

Use Slime, or a can of Flat Fix.

[SeaSlugs]

Originally Posted by J Franklin

Use Slime, or a can of Flat Fix.

that stuff never works and makes it impossible to ever get a patch on the innertube ever again. its meant for the side of the road and thats all

[Chuck Sea/Tac]

Originally Posted by Logan

Just replace the tube. Their $15-$18 dollars with a rubber valve stem. It's better than trying to patch an old one up for it to leak again on you.

Are the tubes good now? Last I heard, everyone was complaining about them splitting and leaking.

[28ACoupe]

replace the tube. Your life depends on it doing it's job properly.

Unless, of course, your life isn't worth the $20.00 it will cost to do so...

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by SeaSlugs

that stuff never works and makes it impossible to ever get a patch on the innertube ever again. its meant for the side of the road and thats all

That has also been my experience.

If you can find an old hot patch that is the best.

[Mike V. Florida]

I have friends that race Bicycles off road. They use slime to convert their tube tires to tubless tires.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Chuck Sea/Tac

Are the tubes good now? Last I heard, everyone was complaining about them splitting and leaking.

The problem is people aren't careful when installing the tubes. They manage to pinch the tube in the process of putting it in. I'll agree with the fact that the tubes now days aren't as good as some of the older ones, but it seems like just about every part is that way now days. In the last year I've put on 6 tires and tubes on 2 cars, and I've only split 1 tube in the process and I knew it as soon as I did it. I saw the tube pinched between the rim and tire iron and sure enough it leaked when I put air in it. I just threw the tube away and ordered another.

[H. L. Chauvin]

Humble Opinion:

1. Reply #8 is appears far less time consuming, & just a one (1) time flat fix; & furthermore, it includes the Life Safety features later mentioned in reply #12.

2. To share an experience, just bought six (6) new tubes from Bratton's that work great; however, after speaking directly to Mr. Walt Bratton prior to ordering same, I did not ask him if "only" Bratton's offer these special order tubes that he sells made from 100% pure rubber as opposed to some of the other Model A tubes made from recycled rubber that appear to last about as long as a Dollar Store Helium Birthday Balloon. Other Model A vendors may or may not have these "same" tubes.

3. Considering one (1) sudden flat, a Model A possibly weaving almost out of control, & after thinking -- my children & grandchildren riding in my Model A are not expendable items.

4. Easy Fix: Just skip the Fast Food Triple Meat Burger, the Fried Apple Pie, & the Mango/Pineapple Slush a few times & get the plain burger instead & one saved enough money to buy a new tube & save lives -- besides, after thinking, losing pounds on your scale appears to makes a little more sense than losing pounds from your tube.

[Mike V. Florida]

People have been driving on patched tubes for over a 100 years and they did not die from flat tires, old age yes, flat tires no.

[H. L. Chauvin]

Agree with Mike.

In late 1940's & 1950's, I remember on two (2) lane rural gravel roads whereby tube tire flats were as common as bugs on a car windshield -- no shoulders -- just stop, jack up car & fix tires.

Drivers then were aware that this was very common, & that jacked up cars in the line of traffic happened often.

Hand signals then also worked great for drivers observing vehicles with no turn signal lights.

In 2013, with tubeless tires, after traveling hundreds of miles & possibly never seeing a car jacked up with a flat tire, one never expects to see one, especially while one is distracted while texting or concentrating on one's phone conversation.

After experiencing flagging down our 2013 70 mph traffic to fix a tube tire flat on a vintage vehicle only "once" today makes it worth planning trips on highways that have shoulders.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by H. L. Chauvin

In 2013, with tubeless tires, after traveling hundreds of miles & possibly never seeing a car jacked up with a flat tire, one never expects to see one, especially while one is distracted while texting or concentrating on one's phone conversation.
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Subaru no longer sells cars with any spare tire.

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Subaru no longer sells cars with any spare tire.

And I thought it was bad when cars went to that stupid mini spare.

Time to buy only pre 1970 cars.