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Racur96 · 03-31-2013, 09:59 PM

I've got a 28-9 Tudor sedan body. No chassis. What differences are there to tell the 2 years apart? It's has 7 ribs on filler screen if you count the one where the screen is joined together. But that's all I've found so far.

Steve Plucker · 03-31-2013, 10:13 PM

Look on the back...Lower left corner...are there three holes which posess D-nuts for the tail light? This feature was start of production through about February/March 1929.

Is there or is there not in the lower left corner of the left cowl section a rectangular hole for the emergency brake handle? This feature ended about June 1928.

Where the lower hood panels, Right and Left, meet the cowl section...On the body of the cowl section, begining in July 1928, the cowl panel extended out beyond the firewall where earlier, it did not.

On the gas tank...Look at the choke rod bracket. Is it flat or a casting? If a casting is it fairly long or short and located towards the firewall? Go to my website and go to Additional Studies and look up the 1928-1929 Gas Tank article...there you will see what I am talking about.

There might be some more features I do not know about.

Pluck

Racur96 · 03-31-2013, 10:25 PM

Ok that's where I got the info on filler screen, on the vertical ribs do you count the one where the screen is seamed together as a rib? Thanks Steve

Steve Plucker · 03-31-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Racur96

Ok that's where I got the info on filler screen, on the vertical ribs do you count the one where the screen is seamed together as a rib? Thanks Steve

Look at the other areas before basing your call on that screen.

Pluck

Tom Wesenberg · 04-01-2013, 12:39 AM

Also check the gas tank for a date.

Rowdy · 04-01-2013, 01:15 AM

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Also 28's the upper and lower qtr panels were bolted together the whole length. 29's had a bolt at each end of the seam and spot welds inbetween. I tried to nail down an approx time frame the change in construction practice was made, but was unseccessful. The 28's that were bolted the entire length of the seam had. Doubler strip at the top of the bottom qtr and at the bottom of the upper qtr. Rod

Tom Wesenberg · 04-01-2013, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

Also 28's the upper and lower qtr panels were bolted together the whole length. 29's had a bolt at each end of the seam and spot welds inbetween. I tried to nail down an approx time frame the change in construction practice was made, but was unseccessful. The 28's that were bolted the entire length of the seam had. Doubler strip at the top of the bottom qtr and at the bottom of the upper qtr. Rod

My 2-23-29 Tudor has the bolts at each end and empty holes where the 28's would have had bolts. I wonder how long the empty holes continued?

My 2-23-29 also has the slots as well as the metal hooks to fasten the rear seat backs.

Steve Plucker · 04-01-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

My 2-23-29 Tudor has the bolts at each end and empty holes where the 28's would have had bolts. I wonder how long the empty holes continued?

TOM...so yours must be spot welded then as Rod says...yes...no?

Pluck

My 2-23-29 also has the slots as well as the metal hooks to fasten the rear seat backs.

Pluck

Tom Wesenberg · 04-01-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Plucker

Pluck

Yes, it has the spot welds, but I was puzzled about all those empty holes when I first saw them. I could see no marks from bolts ever being in the holes, so I figured there were spot welds and Marco and some others confirmed this.

Rowdy · 04-01-2013, 01:47 PM

Tom, Curious if the qtrs have the doubler (reinforcement) strip since it has the bolt holes? Could not tell for sure by your pic's looking at them on my i-phone. Rod

Tom Wesenberg · 04-01-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

Tom, Curious if the qtrs have the doubler (reinforcement) strip since it has the bolt holes? Could not tell for sure by your pic's looking at them on my i-phone. Rod

Rowdy, I'm not sure and can't get to it until I empty out the garage sometime this summer.

Rowdy · 04-01-2013, 03:23 PM

No problem. I did not get much cooperation several years ago when I started to try to nail down a time frame. Best I could do based on the info I received was November of 28 to April of 29. Did not get any info inbetween. Will have to dig to see if I can still find my notes or if I pitched them. Rod

03-31-2013, 09:59 PM	#1
Racur96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lawrenceburg, tn Posts: 128	28 29 Tudor sedan body differences I've got a 28-9 Tudor sedan body. No chassis. What differences are there to tell the 2 years apart? It's has 7 ribs on filler screen if you count the one where the screen is joined together. But that's all I've found so far.

03-31-2013, 10:13 PM	#2
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: 28 29 Tudor sedan body differences Look on the back...Lower left corner...are there three holes which posess D-nuts for the tail light? This feature was start of production through about February/March 1929. Is there or is there not in the lower left corner of the left cowl section a rectangular hole for the emergency brake handle? This feature ended about June 1928. Where the lower hood panels, Right and Left, meet the cowl section...On the body of the cowl section, begining in July 1928, the cowl panel extended out beyond the firewall where earlier, it did not. On the gas tank...Look at the choke rod bracket. Is it flat or a casting? If a casting is it fairly long or short and located towards the firewall? Go to my website and go to Additional Studies and look up the 1928-1929 Gas Tank article...there you will see what I am talking about. There might be some more features I do not know about. Pluck

03-31-2013, 10:25 PM	#3
Racur96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: lawrenceburg, tn Posts: 128	Re: 28 29 Tudor sedan body differences Ok that's where I got the info on filler screen, on the vertical ribs do you count the one where the screen is seamed together as a rib? Thanks Steve

04-01-2013, 12:39 AM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: 28 29 Tudor sedan body differences Also check the gas tank for a date.

04-01-2013, 01:15 AM	#6
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: 28 29 Tudor sedan body differences Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Also 28's the upper and lower qtr panels were bolted together the whole length. 29's had a bolt at each end of the seam and spot welds inbetween. I tried to nail down an approx time frame the change in construction practice was made, but was unseccessful. The 28's that were bolted the entire length of the seam had. Doubler strip at the top of the bottom qtr and at the bottom of the upper qtr. Rod

04-01-2013, 01:47 PM	#10
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: 28 29 Tudor sedan body differences Tom, Curious if the qtrs have the doubler (reinforcement) strip since it has the bolt holes? Could not tell for sure by your pic's looking at them on my i-phone. Rod

04-01-2013, 03:23 PM	#12
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: 28 29 Tudor sedan body differences No problem. I did not get much cooperation several years ago when I started to try to nail down a time frame. Best I could do based on the info I received was November of 28 to April of 29. Did not get any info inbetween. Will have to dig to see if I can still find my notes or if I pitched them. Rod