WD40 through spark plug hole???

[cp5491r]

Hi all,
Life got in the way of running the model A for the last 12 months and with winter, I won't start it again until spring. What do you think of taking a spark plug out and spraying a little WD40 towards the valves to keep them from sticking over a long period of time???

[michael a]

Get your oil can out and squirt it in the cylinders a few bumps turn the motor over put the plug back in it and let him sleep over the winter WD-40 is not a lubricant that I would use for this

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[1931 flamingo]

I just put mine away for the winter, added seafoam and MMO to the gas, drove it into the garage and let it sit till spring. Just like I've done for the last 6-7 years. Starts right up in the spring and no problems.
Paul in CT

[40 Deluxe]

Don't waste your time nor money on WD-40. "WD" = "Water Displacement", 40th attempt to get it workable. If you have water condensation or droplets on a surface, WD40 will break the surface tension and let the water drain off, is all it does. It's not made to be a lubricant nor protectant. Read the labels of various products at your local parts store. Something like PB Blaster Lubricant (not Penetrant) may work.

[cp5491r]

Thanks for the thoughts. I like the idea of having something that is aerosolized so that it get's back to all of the valves.

[Big hammer]

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Motor oil and crank it over then install your plugs!

[burner31]

I believe the data supports the use of oil.

[Pinesdune]

If you have to use a spray bomb, use Fluid Film


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[California Travieso]

Would those micro lubricants like Z-Max's work as well as regular motor oil?

David Serrano

[daren007]

You would have to be sure the valves are open and force the oil down the stems.

[SeaSlugs]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

Don't waste your time nor money on WD-40. "WD" = "Water Displacement", 40th attempt to get it workable. If you have water condensation or droplets on a surface, WD40 will break the surface tension and let the water drain off, is all it does. It's not made to be a lubricant nor protectant. Read the labels of various products at your local parts store. Something like PB Blaster Lubricant (not Penetrant) may work.

agreed - stuff needs to be put in the far reaches of the garage. It is good at removing stuck on grease off your fingerprints haha.

I rebuilt/freshed up my engine in 2009 - didnt start it again til 2015. Only thing i did was use the ol red oil can and squirt some motor oil down the cyl every few months and rotate it once or twice. 2015 it started right up with no issues.

Id do just that or use a foging spray if your paranoid - remmington gun oil is meant to do just what you want - prevent rust and stuck parts. (and its like $4 a can at wally world)

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

I just put mine away for the winter, added seafoam and MMO to the gas, drove it into the garage and let it sit till spring. Just like I've done for the last 6-7 years. Starts right up in the spring and no problems.
Paul in CT

Best i have ever used!

[1930-Pickup]

WD-40 is: Water Displacing formula #40

If you have water inside your cylinders...ok.
If there is no water, WD-40 is not the right tool for the job.

[glenn in camino]

I'd use Kroil because it is an oil.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Keep it simple, a TABLESPOON of ATF in each hole, screw in 4 OLD plugs & crank it for 5 SECONDS. It's NOT Rocket Science, trust me.
Bill W.

[Bruce Adams]

FOGGING OIL is meant to lube the cylinder walls and lube the valves during the winter. Give each cylinder a two second shot through the spark plug hole, crank it over, then lightly screw plugs in. Leave a note to remove plugs and turn over prior to screwing plugs in tight in spring.

[Crankster]

So, let's recap

WD40
Seafoam
MMO
Z-Max
Kroil
Motor Oil
Fluid Film
ATF
Fogging Oil

[daveymc29]

Bill Williamson has it right. If you must spend extra money, put in MMO or the ATF, but motor oil will work fine for an engine that is now running fine, Oil in the plug holes, put the plugs back, in a crank it a few revolutions. (with the key off) Spring it will fire right up. Trust me I say, from the 65 degrees of a cold winters day near SF Bay.

[Patrick L.]

I'm an ATF guy too. Pour some in the holes, crank the engine over several times and it will find every little nook and cranny. Reinstall the sparklers and you're done.

[WHN]

You have to do what is going to make you happy and feel any potential problems have been taken care of.

Having said that. For more years than I care to remember, we have done the same thing without any spring surprises.

As little gas as possible in tank with MMO and stabilizer, check tire pressure, grease and oil everything, drain radiator, moth balls under seat and in rumble seat area, run carburetor dry, car cover. I also charge battery every month or so. Change oil in spring.

Has always started right up in April. Enjoy and Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to everyone.

[Ron in Quincy]

Some years ago a man I knew wiped his shotgun down with WD4O then put it away in the closet. When he told me what he had done I told him that WD40 drew moisture,he checked the gun and it was covered with a film of rust.

Do not use it in your engine !!!!!!!

Ron

[captndan]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

Don't waste your time nor money on WD-40. "WD" = "Water Displacement", 40th attempt to get it workable. If you have water condensation or droplets on a surface, WD40 will break the surface tension and let the water drain off, is all it does. It's not made to be a lubricant nor protectant. Read the labels of various products at your local parts store. Something like PB Blaster Lubricant (not Penetrant) may work.

^^^^^^^^

[3.6rs]

Originally Posted by cp5491r

Hi all,
Life got in the way of running the model A for the last 12 months and with winter, I won't start it again until spring. What do you think of taking a spark plug out and spraying a little WD40 towards the valves to keep them from sticking over a long period of time???

Fogging with Marvel Mystery Spray is the best solution.

[wingski]

Nobody mentioned the fact that you can buy a re-fillable aerosol spray can from Harbor Freight for a few bucks. Put a little motor oil in that sucker and pressurize it. Then, spray your oil through an open spark plug hole. I’ll guarantee that you’ll get oil everywhere you want it.

Mike

[3.6rs]

Originally Posted by wingski

...Then, spray your oil through an open spark plug hole. I’ll guarantee that you’ll get oil everywhere you want it.

Mike

Not really sure about that. Fogging is the way to do it.

[hardtimes]

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Originally Posted by cp5491r

Hi all,
Life got in the way of running the model A for the last 12 months and with winter, I won't start it again until spring. What do you think of taking a spark plug out and spraying a little WD40 towards the valves to keep them from sticking over a long period of time???

I use 'used' ATF fluid for nearly everything, including equipment storage, internal combustion engines, etc...works great and is cheap !
That said, auto stores sell 'fogging oil' spray cans , and I use this for same reasons and purposes. IMO, either method and you will be happy with outcome. Good luck.

[SeaSlugs]

Originally Posted by Ron in Quincy

Some years ago a man I knew wiped his shotgun down with WD4O then put it away in the closet. When he told me what he had done I told him that WD40 drew moisture,he checked the gun and it was covered with a film of rust.

Do not use it in your engine !!!!!!!

Ron

yup - not to mention wd-40 dries out with time to a gummy mess. NOT GOOD FOR RINGS

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

I use 'used' ATF fluid for nearly everything, including equipment storage, internal combustion engines, etc...works great and is cheap !
That said, auto stores sell 'fogging oil' spray cans , and I use this for same reasons and purposes. IMO, either method and you will be happy with outcome. Good luck.

I used it all the time in my air tools. Good stuff, and less expensive than many other oils.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by 1930-Pickup

WD-40 is: Water Displacing formula #40

If you have water inside your cylinders...ok.
If there is no water, WD-40 is not the right tool for the job.

You cannot have rust without water. Displace the water and you will have no rust.

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by SeaSlugs

yup - not to mention wd-40 dries out with time to a gummy mess. NOT GOOD FOR RINGS

Exactly right SeaSlugs...a gummy mess! That's been my experience too.

When I was going to school for aviation repair and maintenance, our professor said that if anyone was caught using an adjustable wrench or WD-40 they would be booted out of class for the rest of the day, and he meant it.

WD-40 did some kind of massively successful marketing campaign many years ago. Here we are well into the information age and WD-40 is still used by many, many people for all kinds of situations.

Most people say they use it as a lubricant, but they give little consideration to what happens to it only a short time later.

[Paul Bennett]

I'd add winterizing oil to the gas, run it around the block, park her. Add nothing into the cylinders, and it's important to toss the WD-40 in the trash, it's marginally good for removing rust. If you insist on messing with her cylinders, treat them with MMO and sleep well.

[Crankster]

My experience is in the open air, over time WD40 evaporates fairly completely and provides no corrosion protection at all. It's not really suited for some of the tasks that people use it for, but that's no reason to malign it. It's just the stuff for spraying out the inside of a wet distributor cap, wiping crud off the wires, say. It has its uses. It used to be popular as a starting fluid when the propellant was different, like many things manufacturers "improve" their product over time.

[2manycars]

That reminds me of a joke about wd40, but probably it would offend someone, so I will refrain from posting it.

Like Paul, I dumped a few gluggs of marvel mystery oil in the gas tank, ran it around the block (that's 10 miles around here) and put it away with the battery tenderizer on it. Same routine for more years than I can remember. If we get some snow and the town does not salt the road, I will take it out for some fun. Otherwise it stays in the barn until the roads are dry.

Here is today's Model A of the Day photo from MAFCA.

[pgerhardt]

Originally Posted by WHN

You have to do what is going to make you happy and feel any potential problems have been taken care of.

Having said that. For more years than I care to remember, we have done the same thing without any spring surprises.

As little gas as possible in tank with MMO and stabilizer, check tire pressure, grease and oil everything, drain radiator, moth balls under seat and in rumble seat area, run carburetor dry, car cover. I also charge battery every month or so. Change oil in spring.

Has always started right up in April. Enjoy and Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to everyone.

That could be dangerous. An empty gas tank is an invitation to condensation. Water in the gas tank is not a good thing. What I do is drain out any ethanol gas left in from summer running, and fill the tank to the top with ethanol free gas. Then I shut off the fuel valve and let the engine run until it stops so there is nothing left in the carb bowl. The she is then ready for her winter sleep!

[Patrick L.]

it's important to toss the WD-40 in the trash,
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I'm with you on that !


Now there is comment on winterizing the fuel tank. Top it off with Sea-Foam well mixed into the fuel. The 'more fuller' the better. Run the motor with the Sea-Foam mix and shut off the fuel and let the engine die. Take out the sparklers as mentioned previously, dump some ATF in each hole and spin the engine over. Reinstall the sparklers. Slow charge the battery just for the heck of it and you're done. Do what you like as far as putting it off the tires or not.
Mouse proofing it may be a good idea.

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by 2manycars

and put it away with the battery tenderizer on it.

How long before the battery is tender enough to eat?

[2manycars]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

How long before the battery is tender enough to eat?

Sorta like my x wife's cooking. "Put a brick in the pot with the chicken, and when the brick is soft, the chicken is done."

[Chris Haynes]

I was going overseas for 9 months. So I gave my motorcycles a good shower of WD40 before I left. When I got home they were both rusted.

[Crankster]

Exactly. You're not blaming WD40 though. Right?

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by 2manycars

That reminds me of a joke about wd40, but probably it would offend someone, so I will refrain from posting it.

It won't offend me...

[2manycars]

Originally Posted by 1930-Pickup

It won't offend me...

Check your messages.

[WHN]

Originally Posted by pgerhardt

That could be dangerous. An empty gas tank is an invitation to condensation. Water in the gas tank is not a good thing. What I do is drain out any ethanol gas left in from summer running, and fill the tank to the top with ethanol free gas. Then I shut off the fuel valve and let the engine run until it stops so there is nothing left in the carb bowl. The she is then ready for her winter sleep!

Heated garage, been doing the same thing for over 40 years. But what do I know.

We all have are own way, right or wrong, if it works,it works. Enjoy and Merry Christmas.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Remember to OIL your HORN, before WINTER STORAGE!!!!
Buster T. Dog

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by 2manycars

Check your messages.

Too funny

[Railcarmover]

Why not just wander out to the garage and fire it up once in a while? I don't let any of my stuff sit too long,they lot rot (old dealership term for a car that sits too long)..

[SeaSlugs]

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Originally Posted by Railcarmover

Why not just wander out to the garage and fire it up once in a while? I don't let any of my stuff sit too long,they lot rot (old dealership term for a car that sits too long)..

because if you dont get everything hot your doing more damage than just letting it sit. Oil must get hot to burn off any acids that develop, get moisture out of the exhaust pipe or it will rust out quick as well.