Generator mount

[jrvariel48]

Does any one make a gene mount to go on either the passenger or drivers head for an 8BA?

[51 MERC-CT]

See this page Speedway motors---

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Searc...enerator+mount

[jrvariel48]

Thanks 51. Sorry I should have mentioned I have a blower and I can't use the front manifold mount. I was looking for the style that bolts to the head, but I only see them for earlier motors
Thank you, Joe

[RalphM]

I think I just saw one a couple days ago in Ford Barn classifieds

[Flathead Fever]

You made me curious. I've been looking for one for you and I don't see an 8BA generator mount that bolts to the heads or even a photo of an 8BA motor with a generator mount bolted to a head. I'm guessing it's because the 8BA water necks are located in the front of the head and would be in the way of a generator mount. Plus the 8BA distributor would probably be in the on the right side.

[jrvariel48]

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Originally Posted by Flathead Fever

You made me curious. I've been looking for one for you and I don't see an 8BA generator mount that bolts to the heads or even a photo of an 8BA motor with a generator mount bolted to a head. I'm guessing it's because the 8BA water necks are located in the front of the head and would be in the way of a generator mount. Plus the 8BA distributor would probably be in the on the right side.

Yes, exactly, I thought maybe someone designed a bracket to mount to the lower head bolts below the water neck. The blower I have came with a bracket for an alternator that mounts in that location. I had to modify it, but I'm trying to get back to the original style generator for a more period correct look. The motor is stock looking and the alternator sticks out like a soar thumb

[51 MERC-CT]

Originally Posted by jrvariel48

Yes, exactly, I thought maybe someone designed a bracket to mount to the lower head bolts below the water neck. The blower I have came with a bracket for an alternator that mounts in that location. I had to modify it, but I'm trying to get back to the original style generator for a more period correct look. The motor is stock looking and the alternator sticks out like a soar thumb

Are you saying that you already have an alternator bracket that you modified that mounts on the head and you are incapable of modifying it or making one to accept a generator?

[drolston]

PowerGen makes an alternator that looks like a generator. Mine failed completely after 3000 miles, but I was able to get an alternator shop to completely replace the bearings and electrical parts. It is the same length as a generator and a little larger diameter, so it may be hard to fit it on your manifold with the blower.

[rotorwrench]

The head bolt arrangement between all the 24 stud/bolt applications is the same. 8BA types have the water necks on the front so they may be in the way as well as the distributor on the right side. I'm not sure if the 59 series head mounts will clear the necks. There are different necks available too. A person can use the earlier heads like the 59 series if certain ports are plugged. That mod may pose problems if the blower is a wide one. Where there is a will there is a way.

[Jack E/NJ]

>>>Where there is a will there is a way.>>>

Probably could mount it pretty low on the head/block using an idler to wrap the belt around the pump pulley. Jack E/NJ

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

Are you saying that you already have an alternator bracket that you modified that mounts on the head and you are incapable of modifying it or making one to accept a generator?

Lol, no, not incapable at all! Just wanted to keep that one for the present 59 motor and get another for the new 8BA motor I'm building.

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by drolston

PowerGen makes an alternator that looks like a generator. Mine failed completely after 3000 miles, but I was able to get an alternator shop to completely replace the bearings and electrical parts. It is the same length as a generator and a little larger diameter, so it may be hard to fit it on your manifold with the blower.

I also have the PowerGen & was thinking of install it. I guess I'll have to fab something up

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

The head bolt arrangement between all the 24 stud/bolt applications is the same. 8BA types have the water necks on the front so they may be in the way as well as the distributor on the right side. I'm not sure if the 59 series head mounts will clear the necks. There are different necks available too. A person can use the earlier heads like the 59 series if certain ports are plugged. That mod may pose problems if the blower is a wide one. Where there is a will there is a way.

Thanks Roto!

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by Jack E/NJ

>>>Where there is a will there is a way.>>>

Probably could mount it pretty low on the head/block using an idler to wrap the belt around the pump pulley. Jack E/NJ

Excellent idea Jack!

[tubman]

All I can add is that I bought a used pre-48 generator mounting bracket for cheap at a swap meet once, intending to use it on a 8BA (it had to fit because the head bolt patterns are the same, right?). There was no way I could get everything to bolt together without modification, so I sold it and bought one of those that bolts to the original generator/fan bracket that worked fine.

[flatheadmurre]

Another things swapping mounts between early and late engines...the offset of the belt is different...belt is further out on a 8BA to give the distributor the clearance it needs.

[rotorwrench]

A person can convert an 8BA to use the 59 series type cam, water pumps, heads, fan and ignition but it's a lot of work plus all the different early type parts to make it all work. Then there is a question of frontal fit in the engine compartment confines, blower drive, etc. We have a few guys that run blowers around here but it depends on the type of car too. Is this for the 35 coupe in the avatar?

[Flathead Fever]

This might sound stupid but if you machined off the fins where the mount needs to go and used a piece of flat plate with a hole cutout to go over the thermostat housing or even get sandwiched between the head and thermostat housing, plus a hole for the spark plug that would get you the start of something substantial enough to build a bracket out of and still keep the generator located high on the engine where it would look best. If you use an 8BA generator bracket, with the strap, it has a locating pin that fits in a hole in the generator’s housing. If your fabricated mount is off a little you can re-drill that hole to move the generator forward or backward to get your belt to lineup. The thermostat housing neck and hose will probably hit the generator, so you might find be able to find a housing that comes off at an angle. If your interested I believe, I have an Airtex illustrated parts catalog with photos of all the different thermostat housings. I This sounds like a fun project (challenge).

Years ago, I went to Al Sharps house (Sharp Speed Equipment). He was a really nice guy. It didn’t matter who you were or what you knew. If you were interested, he would take the time to share his knowledge with you. He was designing an air conditioning bracket for a flathead Ford in his ’40 or ’41 pickup. He was one of a just a few speed equipment manufacturers that had an actual college engineering degree, and he was brilliant pattern maker. The prototype air conditioning compressor bracket he was engineering was made from wood. Its fast, cheap and if you screw it up its easy to make a new one. He said, “if you have been a pattern maker for 15-year’s you’re still a half-assed pattern maker, you’re still learning”. While I was there, he was remaking his head patterns and intakes all out of wood. Because the foundry had lost the original core boxes. You should have seen these head patterns. The fins were made from rose wood and dove tailed into the heads. Each of them accurate to within .004”. He was also working on the intake runners. All carved from wood. They were impressive!

What I learned that day was if you want to fabricate something you make it out of wood first, the old school way.

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by flatheadmurre

Another things swapping mounts between early and late engines...the offset of the belt is different...belt is further out on a 8BA to give the distributor the clearance it needs.

Good point!

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

A person can convert an 8BA to use the 59 series type cam, water pumps, heads, fan and ignition but it's a lot of work plus all the different early type parts to make it all work. Then there is a question of frontal fit in the engine compartment confines, blower drive, etc. We have a few guys that run blowers around here but it depends on the type of car too. Is this for the 35 coupe in the avatar?

Yes it is Roto