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ddelproop · 10-10-2023, 12:01 PM

Hi,
Anyone experience issues removing the Timing Gear Inspection cover.

I removed the front facing bolts and two side facing bolts

But for some reason the timing cover will not lift off but can be pivoted to the side very little about 1/2 inch with holding it back.

I tried lifting, pivoting ect. The gasket on the sides of the cover is loose.

I figured it is stuck to the gasket at the base but there is so little movement it is as if it is bolted from underneath. I looked and did not see any fastener.

I looked at the manuals, online pics and even youtube videos and I can see no reason it would be secured further.

Before I try to really pry it off risking damaging something...am I missing something?

Thanks
DAN

Y-Blockhead · 10-10-2023, 12:24 PM

Never mind, thought you were asking about the front cover.

Tom Endy · 10-10-2023, 12:36 PM

There is a bolt hidden back inside a recess, make sure you remove it before trying to get the cover off.

Tom Endy

kenparker0703 · 10-10-2023, 12:51 PM

Bolts from underneath, holding engine pan to side cover.

Charlie Stephens · 10-10-2023, 12:52 PM

Did you get the bolt on the bottom. Note the bolts is missing in the picture showing the cover installed. Click picture to enlarge.

Charlie Stephens

Charlie Stephens · 10-10-2023, 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Endy

There is a bolt hidden back inside a recess, make sure you remove it before trying to get the cover off.

Tom Endy

Tom,

Any chance you are thinking about the bolt in the timing gear cover? I can't find anything hidden inside a recess on the inspection cover.

Charlie Stephens

JayJay · 10-10-2023, 01:16 PM

If you have the two bolts through the front cover, the two bolts on the side, and the bolt through the pan, it should come off. Keep in mind that you have sealing surfaces to three different parts (pan, front cover and block) and some of those may be Permatexed on.

There is a lip around the pan that may obscure the bolt head, but be assured, it's there. Try looking with a mirror. It sounds to me like that's the one that is holding it on. See the third pic in post #5.

ddelproop · 10-10-2023, 01:22 PM

Thank All of you so much
I looked under the engine a few times but the placement of the drip pan would throw me off. The picture above was a big help!

And the bolt in question was mostly underneath the drip pan.

Once I remove the drip pan and the single bolt from underneath inspect cover fell right off

Thanks again
Dan

ddelproop · 10-10-2023, 01:37 PM

On a side note. The timing gear looks near perfect. Two teeth each have 1 mm chip on the edge of respective tooth on engine side. All teeth have otherwise perfect profile

Drip pan bolts/nuts were loose.

Dan

10-10-2023, 12:01 PM	#1
ddelproop Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Posts: 48	1931 Model A. Timing gear inspection cover Hi, Anyone experience issues removing the Timing Gear Inspection cover. I removed the front facing bolts and two side facing bolts But for some reason the timing cover will not lift off but can be pivoted to the side very little about 1/2 inch with holding it back. I tried lifting, pivoting ect. The gasket on the sides of the cover is loose. I figured it is stuck to the gasket at the base but there is so little movement it is as if it is bolted from underneath. I looked and did not see any fastener. I looked at the manuals, online pics and even youtube videos and I can see no reason it would be secured further. Before I try to really pry it off risking damaging something...am I missing something? Thanks DAN

10-10-2023, 12:24 PM	#2
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: 1931 Model A. Timing gear inspection cover Never mind, thought you were asking about the front cover. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 10-10-2023 at 12:29 PM.

10-10-2023, 12:36 PM	#3
Tom Endy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,131	Re: 1931 Model A. Timing gear inspection cover There is a bolt hidden back inside a recess, make sure you remove it before trying to get the cover off. Tom Endy

10-10-2023, 12:51 PM	#4
kenparker0703 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 88	Re: 1931 Model A. Timing gear inspection cover Bolts from underneath, holding engine pan to side cover.

10-10-2023, 01:16 PM	#7
JayJay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,077	Re: 1931 Model A. Timing gear inspection cover If you have the two bolts through the front cover, the two bolts on the side, and the bolt through the pan, it should come off. Keep in mind that you have sealing surfaces to three different parts (pan, front cover and block) and some of those may be Permatexed on. There is a lip around the pan that may obscure the bolt head, but be assured, it's there. Try looking with a mirror. It sounds to me like that's the one that is holding it on. See the third pic in post #5. __________________ JayJay San Francisco Bay Area ------------------------ 1930 Murray Town Sedan 1931 Briggs S/W Town Sedan

10-10-2023, 01:22 PM	#8
ddelproop Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Posts: 48	Re: 1931 Model A. Timing gear inspection cover Thank All of you so much I looked under the engine a few times but the placement of the drip pan would throw me off. The picture above was a big help! And the bolt in question was mostly underneath the drip pan. Once I remove the drip pan and the single bolt from underneath inspect cover fell right off Thanks again Dan

10-10-2023, 01:37 PM	#9
ddelproop Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Posts: 48	Re: 1931 Model A. Timing gear inspection cover On a side note. The timing gear looks near perfect. Two teeth each have 1 mm chip on the edge of respective tooth on engine side. All teeth have otherwise perfect profile Drip pan bolts/nuts were loose. Dan