Trading '67 442 for '49 F1

[AnthonyG]

I'm sure this is a prejudice crowd but I'll ask for opinions any way. Close to a deal trading my '67 442 for a pretty nice '49 F1. Probably the 442 plus $3k. 442 #'s match, mechanically right ( runs well ), good body and paint, needs interior redo. Pic's of both attached. thoughts on whether it's Fair deal?

[tubman]

Although I'd personally rather have the F1, in this world of "Muscle Car Mania" it doesn't sound like a good deal at all, especially if you have give some to boot. The relative condition of each could make a big difference. It's hard to tell from the pictures you've supplied.

[19Fordy]

tubman got it right. Install an OEM interior in your 442 and
it's value will soar in today's muscle car market. Don't do the trade.

[Ken Crans]

Ok i'll be the goat... There are shit load of red F-1s ,lol but i think i would keep the 442. Not many of them around and a true muscle car.I would think the 442 is worth more.But i'm a Flathead guy not a GM man. I have been watching the F-1 on Ebay to see how high the auction goes.JMO Ken

[Charlie ny]

Anthony,
Your comfort with the $$$$ is up to you. Be sure you know what you are
buying. The two piece front fenders are usually rotten at the 60 degree angle. You
will notice a support plate on the inside of the fender in this area. Those plates hold
dirt, sand and salt ladened water and snow. The running board front and rear fender
joining areas are also a catch all for bad stuff. Creative body work can mask these
areas and I can tell you nobody wants to pay for a proper all steel repair. Fiberglass
repair panels are available but resale in most cases is dragged way down.
OMHO,
Charlie ny

[40cpe]

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The picture of the F1 shows a ridge on the front fender where the joint is on a steel fender. To me this means it is a fiberglass fender. If it had rust there, it probably had it in other places, too. NADA shows the median price of a 442 at $32,000 plus. Even if it is worth the low retail price of around $20 grand consider the $3000 boot and it doesn't add up to a good deal for you. Of course you know your 442's condition, but there are SO many things that could be iffy on the F1, too. Think long and hard.

[mtflat]

If you go thru with the deal I'd bet you'll be disappointed. There are just a few "curious" things about the truck that I'd want to look at a lot closer. Like why is the roof flat black? The front fender line looks strange. The rest would require getting down under it with a strong light.

By the very nature of Ford's assembly procedure, these trucks are not and cannot be "numbers matching" so if that is important to you on your 442 ......

In addition to the above, these trucks are still a 'dime a dozen' and cheap to come by. They just don't command the same market the muscle cars do. Only my dos pesos of course .....fwiw

[TJ]

Without a good side shot of those fenders it's hard to tell if they are F-1 fenders or the big truck fenders. The opening looks big to me. I too am suspicious of the black roof. Cleanup the interior of the 442 and sell it for as much as you can get. You'll be able to buy a nicer F-1 than this one and probably have a fair amount of money left over.

[moefuzz]

It's hard to tell but those fenders look suspiciously F3 ish with a large wheel opening.
Don't know what to think of the seam on the front but that truck isn't what it seems.

[Charlie ny]

Antny,
Yikes I never noticed the the beading on the fender seam RUNNNNNNNN
don't walk away from that lemon.
OR
He pays you 8 or 9 grand to close the deal.
Charlie ny

[George/Maine]

keep the Olds.

[51 MERC-CT]

Just a few shots of what's under the shiny paint.

[39 STD]

Bottom line--Don't do it--You'll live to regret it.

[51504bat]

What part of NO don't you understand? IMHO even a straight across trade would be a bad deal for you.

[34fordy]

You are getting some very good advice from experienced Ford guys. I believe that you expected them to be in favor of the trade. I have looked at cars from this dealer and many of them show poor workmanship. I would also say keep what you have and sell it yourself. Then go looking for a nice pickup. If you don't get in a hurry you can do much better.

[AnthonyG]

Got the message. You guys did pleasantly surprise me a bit. I really did expect as 34fordy indicates. I appreciate the good non biased advise and will Poo Poo the deal.
Thx to all!!!

[compyello]

It doesn't sound like a good deal to me

[hulleywoodworking]

I remember looking at that truck on ebay and thinking that someone had polished a turd really well. I went back and found it again and still think that. If you look closely at the pictures, you will see that the exterior is very shiney and smooth, but the little details everywhere else don't match up. There is visible rust and bubbled paint around the instrument panel inside the cab; the engine comparment looks like it has been sprayed over dirt, rust, etc. with a quick coat of black; the views of the engine show a lot of oil leakage at the rear mains; what the hell is that chunk of 2x4 doing there?; etc. etc. etc.

RUN, don't walk, from this deal!! I can only imagine how bad it really is under all of that polish.

Just another $.02.

John

[Barry-ct]

Don't do it! 442's are not that plentiful ( we had 3 in high school in my class of 72 ) anymore. It's worth far more than the F-1 will be.

[funrunr]

Of all 442's, 67 is my favorite. Your 67 looks to be a good looking example too.
Glad to read you poo poo'd the deal.